Marilyn Monroe was tricked into killing herself by Bobby Kennedy.
So says Dr Jack Hattem, who, backed up by secret FBI files, says the Hollywood bombshell was somehow fooled into believing she would be revived in time as part of a plot involving Senator Robert Kennedy, the brother of JFK, who was gunned down 40 years ago this week.
Instead, Monroe, who staged many fake suicide attempts throughout her life to gain sympathy, was left to die by staff and friends. It’s all in Hattem’s new book Marilyn Monroe: Murder By Consent.
Certainly, Marilyn Monroe may have been dead for 46 years, but that doesn’t mean that people have stopped speculating about the circumstances of her death. We spoke to Dr Hattem and listened to some of his more compelling claims, including where Kennedy was on the night of Marilyn Monroe’s death and why the recently unearthed Marilyn Monroe sex tape might not be the only one knocking about.
This is turning out to be quite a big year for Marilyn Monroe. Not only has Lindsay Lohan aped her by getting naked and covering herself with a net curtain, but a Marilyn Monroe sex tape has also apparently been uncovered in recent months. So with sex dealt with, what about death?
While it was ruled to be suicide, theorists have long had their doubts about the way that Marilyn Monroe died – and thanks to a set of FBI records released 20 years ago that have been inexplicably ignored until recently, those doubts seem to have some substance.
According to Dr Jack Hattem’s book Marilyn Monroe: Murder By Consent, Monroe died because Robert Kennedy, along with Monroe’s close ‘friend’ and Hollywood actor Peter Lawford, convinced her to make another fake suicide attempt.
Caught between his family, who wanted to play down its relationship with Marilyn Monroe and the fact Monroe was threatening to shop a red diary containing ‘pillow talk’ between the pair and confidential secrets about the Cuban Missile Crisis if he ever left her, Robert Kennedy and Rat Pack member Lawford hatched a plan to visit Monroe on the day of her death. Hattem said:
“It is my guess that they had discussed with her, in no uncertain terms, that they needed for her to fake a suicide attempt. They guarantee she would be woken up, and that the fake suicide attempt would gain her so much sympathy from 20th Century Fox – who had fired her – that she would get her job back. But they threatened her somehow. She could be talked into things, because she wanted desperately to be cared about.”
At the time, Kennedy denied the visit, claiming he was in San Francisco. Which he might have got away with, except for the fact the FBI just happened to be busy tracking both Robert Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe at the same time. Hattem explained:
“The CIA had long considered Marilyn Monroe a threat to national security from the time she had married Arthur Miller, because they thought of him as a leftist. Then the FBI started listening in on her phone calls and tracking her – even to Mexico, where Bobby Kennedy had a fling with her. A private detective took an audio tape of Bobby Kennedy and Marilyn in an ‘affair’. The FBI was tracking Kennedy, their boss, all over the place and listening in on his conversations, possibly because Hoover wanted something on Kennedy – and he certainly got it, because as she was dying, they were listening in.”
Adding to the muddle is Marilyn Monroe’s housekeeper Eunice Murray, who found her face down on her bed, and her psychiatrist Ralph Greenson.
Apparently, Monroe fired Murray on the day of her death – which Hattem suggests is why she didn’t rush to try and revive Monroe; and was sleeping with Greenson – who allegedly gave Monroe an extra-large dose of barbiturates on top of what she already had been given.
What’s most interesting, though, is Dr Hattem’s story of the conversation between Bobby Kennedy and Peter Lawford at around 4am the following morning:
“In the FBI files, the FBI is recording Kennedy saying to Peter Lawford ‘Is she dead yet?’”
Throw in the fact that all of Marilyn Monroe’s phone message disappeared, to later be discovered in the chief of police’s private files, and that her red diary could not be found – Hattem’s guess is that Kennedy had a large hand in it. He said:
“I’m certain Robert Kennedy stole it when he came by her house after she was dead.”
But if Robert Kennedy’s involvement in Marilyn Monroe’s death is rooted in fact so firmly that there’s even an FBI file on it, why hasn’t more been made of it?
“I think the reason is that everybody already believes the Kennedys killed her.”
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Who killed Marilyn Monroe? Didn’t I hear this question translated into German, like in the early 1980′s when the press had nothing better to print? Oh, yes I remember the first appearance of ‘Jeanne Carmen,’ a self proclaimed ‘Marilyn friend’whose name I never could retrieve in any address and phone books of Marilyn Monroe. The ones that were sold years ago at Christie’s. And then there was a flash in the pan hoaxer, the 85 year old June DiMaggio who claimed that ‘her mom was on the phone when Marilyn was murdered.’ Yeah, we didn’t even raise an eyebrow, or did we?
Oh wait, didn’t CBS and Hugh Hefner promised to have MM exhumed, to conduct these new tests and to try ONCE AND FOR ALL find out how and why MM died?
What? Too expensive? Come on guys, you made millions on just selling story after story, the mob was claimed to have murdered, the FBI involved (Greetings from Keya Morgan who didn’t get too far with his sex tape hoax) and who else? Oh yes, the Kennedy’s again and over and over.
Whatever.
Maybe it was people like you who really killed her, who made her take her own life. The stupidity of people, the hate, the hate that has not changed. People play games with others, they want action, and they want results. They want death. And when the people who were supposed to be her friends turned away in an ‘I am super busy now, Marilyn move,’ it was tragic, she left.
I must admit that I believed this conspiracy Kennedy murder rubbish, until I met the lie robot John Miner who had not one piece of evidence. Until I met other people who lied, lied and lied again and turned their lies into big bugs.
Hate and jealousy turns people into monsters. And monsters killed Marilyn Monroe. Hate and jealousy killed Marilyn Monroe, who was isolated and left to die. Nobody cared about her–until she took her own life. And please do not act as if you didn’t know this. Everything else is an insult on our intelligence. I said our, not mine, since haters will follow and post hate comments, try to discredit my name, claim this and claim that, and post mostly anonymous. People like Lori Drew, the 49 year old ‘mother’–a monster who drove 13 year old Megan Meier into suicide, those people are everywhere.
Those haters, they killed Marilyn Monroe. Because they always existed, always were around, even in Marilyn Monroe’s own circle of friends, colleagues and competitors.
This is about as credible as ALL the Diana /MI5 etc theories.The woman was a junkie and committed suicide accidentally or on purpose.End of.All this conspiracy is a lot of hot air.She simply was not important enough to have been bumped.
She obviously was important enough for you to post some disgusting and very ugly remarks, oh and did I mention: ANONYMOUS?!
Why don’t you share with us ‘The Groaner’ where you failed in your own four walls of life. Maybe it will be endlessly discussed, turned into a Hollywood career, a body of work, 30 movies, three husbands, and the topic for the highest modern art pieces, created by a man named Andy Warhol. You are either very sad, hateful, jealous, creepy or all of this combined.
So, do you mind if someone insults you as you just did it to young and beautiful lady who died way way way before she was finished with what she could have accomplished as a stage actress, focus on drama and not stupid blond comedy.
Oh, but I do agree with you on the conspiracy hot air. They fooled me too, when I was young and stupid and believed the JFK / Bobby Kennedy BS. People should read the good books, not the junk. It is just like with food. You are what you eat and you become what you…read.
a shit is given by who?
Sam Giancana killed her…there is no mystery about this.
Kind of freaky if you think about it.
You’re reporting the sex tape as a possible reality, even though it was debunked weeks ago, so I don’t have too much faith in the credibility of this article.
Listen guys, it may not be credible, but it sure makes a good story. When was the last time you saw the truth on the web?
Mark, thats a pretty passionate defense you gave for Miss M and I salute you for it. What I think is that she was such an engaging character when she was alive, for her death to be accepted, it would have to be truly sensational. It’s simply not enough to expect that a simple overdose would be enough to take down someone as celebrated as her, there has to be some sort of convoluted scandal involved etc… Whether the “evidence” provided by the speculators can be proven or not (I don’t think the public will ever be able to find out) one thing is for sure, we’re still talking about her now and that must mean that in some sense, we still care about her. I’m taking these stories as a source of entertainment. Monroe reaching out from the grave for one more dramatic close up
There a two very distinct and strong possibilities involving Marilyn Monroe’s “suicide”. The first, is what many of us believe, which is that she was ready to ‘blow the whistle’ on Bobby Kennedy. Not about their affair, wich really wouldn’t have batted an eye at the time, but there were many “secrets she was aware of, being a trusted confidante, and lover of Bobby. It’s not anew phenomena when people sometimes share their innermost thoughts, ambitions and skeletons of their closet when they are intimate. And contrary to what many people think about MM, she was a very intelligent and strong woman, which many men like the Kennedies underestimated. The only other possibilit, is the powers that be took advantage of her troubled and sucidal tendencies in the past. I truly believe she was murdered, and the cover-up was on a grand scale, worthy in influence and clout that the Kennedy family certainly was capable of. Either way, it’s sad, and such a waste. For she had so much more to offer, on so many levels.
Ok. This more of the same garbage reprinted for the zillionth time. This cracks me up. It’s like the rumor that Bobby Kennedy *also* had an affair with Monroe. Easily disproved by looking at the Senator’s campaign schedule vs. Monroe’s sign in/sign out sheet on the set for her latest movie. No doubt, this will not stop the purveyors of mud slinging.
All i have to say is this: If you could absolutely prove it, you would have already. This is just more mud slinging crap against a good person.
Well, she had nice tits. Not much of an actress, mind. And what levels, apart from pretending to be other people in front of cameras for a living, to actors & actresses offer things on? Apart from putting out for the Kennedys?
If you “truly believe” something about Marilyn Monroe’s death, and take the time to post about it on a satire website, you have wasted your fucking life.
Please follow Marilyn’s lead you dumb fucking cunt.
It is important that everyone finds their own ‘explanation’ about how she might have left us. The best example to compare this is for you to watch a mastepiece of cinematic history by Kurosawa: ‘Rashomon’
There are different versions, different stories and it is up to you what to believe. But I am repeating myself that I have looked in this ‘blow the whistle’ BS from Carmen & Slatzer and there is no proof whatsoever for this claim. Anthony Summers blacked out ‘FBI files’ might have impressed me when I was 18, and I believed that nonsense as well, but having seen fake after fake makes you get an eye for these forged ‘documents.’ Two decades ago people might have bough June DiMaggio’s laughable (in a sarcastic sense of humor), but in Lindsay Loham’s / Scarlett’s copy Monroe’s rush, we have focused on a ‘recycled’ Monroe. With other words, I met too many liars, left and right and many of them have simply died already–and now, looking back at their ridiculous claims, you realize what they have done to you: they pranked you. Fooled you like those hidden camera TV shows from the 1980′s. Sensation always sells. I’d say: ‘Mr. Hefner, let’s do it! Pay for it and let’s exhume Marilyn, so that these conspiracy crappers will finally be silenced and go back to Roswell or glorify a Jesus on a toast, a Mary on a cheese sandwich or this weirdo Glenn Beck who is pitching Nuclear Power, and Alaska oil drilling as if it was 1972. As long as losers like him are allowed day after day to claim that global warming doesn’t exist, just because he is too ignorant to realize it, Marilyn Monroe will always be a welcome topic to just ‘escape’ into the lovely 1950′s where the world seemed so much more innocent. I am still hoping for a time machine during my life time. I would just go back to August 4, 1962, I would ring the door bell, and then I would prove to Norma Jeane that life isn’t all that bad. I would fire Eunice and finish her tree planting. I would walk her dogs with her, and try to shield her from the Strasbergs, the Greensons and all the other drainer who sucked on her like parasites and literally suffocated her like (almost) her grandmother did, when she was on infant (if that story is true at all–but that one I do believe).
But I was still not born, unfortunately. Bobby & John were way too busy, their lives were recorded completely and then Marilyn was happily in love, Jose Bolanos, and he was 9 years her junior, so yep, she was her time ahead here again.
But I said that before.
Why can’t you just enjoy the legacy, the body of work this wonderful actress left behind for all of us.
It is a phenomenon on its own how alive Marilyn still seems. How popular with children with teenage girls especially. We should all be happy for this–since Marilyn is public domain now and hopefully will never be ‘owned’ by evil Anna Strasberg and turned into cut out Halloween masks by Mark A. Roesler (true story!)
Close your eyes and imagine you were living in NYC, and a black Thunderbird comes around the corner, driven by Arthur Miller, and an out of this world angelic beauty is sitting on the passenger seat. She is looking happy. She is alive and happy. That is how you should remember her. Not screwing this or that imaginary celebrity whose grandson is trying to sell another fake and dreadful biography.
But–if you feel fine, slander her, mock her, and do your jealous ugly happy dance. It is you who knows that it is only because you are jealous, because she will be forever be remembered. At least in 1000 years from now–most likely more, while you are dust already, blown under some home next to the area, where once the HOLLYWOOD sign was located.
As Marilyn toasts in The Misfits, as Roslyn: To Life. L’Chaim.
Oh and ‘Gilbert Wham’–you are just disgusting. But I hope that you end up super rich and independently wealthy, that should make you as isolated as MM was. And it automatically turns you into a greedy Schmuck. But I think that would raise your level…LMAO
Gilbert Wham, I also hope you end up “super rich” AND “independently wealthy”. And when you do, I just hope you remember how much entertainment I gave you. And make the check out to “Cash”.
This is all very old news. JFK had a fling with her too. The Kennedys were/are no paragons of virtue. This country’s JFK/RFK cult worship is shameful.
If between now and the convention, Obama falls gravely ill and Hillary is recorded in a phone conversation asking, “Is he dead yet?” I suppose a lot of people will jump to the conclusion that Mr. Obama may not be under the best medical care at that particular moment.
Oh, we unwashed masses, we do jump to conclusions!
Not only is this story believable but likely true. RFK was JFK’s attorney general and was the one who secretly taped Dr. ML King, revealing his adultery. The Kennedys make the Clintons look like angels: Teddy let Mary Jo Kopechne slowly suffocate to death in Chappaquidick while he was covering his political ass. This is the slimiest, most corrupt and dirty political bunch ever. Joe Sr. (the father) was a Nazi sympathizer. Peter Lawford was married to a Kennedy (Patricia). Michael Skakel (nephew of RFK) was convicted of the 1975 murder of a 15-yr-old girl. William Kennedy Smith was tried for rape in 1991 and was let off by a sympathetic jury. Nixon really won the 1960 presidential election because it was later revealed that Richard Daley (corrupt mayor of Chicago) stuffed the ballot boxes to put Kennedy over the top. Nixon was urged to request a recount but decided not to. Some family – and they call this Camelot.
Bravo to Mark Bellinghaus — his loving comments about Marilyn could bring you to tears.
But have you forgotten about Philippe Mora’s conspiracy plot from last summer? his version has the housekeeper Mrs. Murray feeding Marilyn the sleeping pills. And the fellow who suggests that we compare Bobby Kennedy’s schedule to Marilyn’s schedule–to prove the lie–should also get get a medal. But America will never know the truth about Marilyn’s death, because America does not want to know the truth — America wants tabloid crap, rumor, innuendo, dirty jokes, flying saucers and conspiracy fantasies, and the delusions of all those people who claim that Marilyn was their lover or mother or best friend or neighbor–whoever/whatever is needed to sell a book or a newspaper or a sex film from the archives of the FBI!
‘Dearest Johnny, (Hyde) Love & Kisses, Marilyn Monroe
) to turn ‘June’s fake and made up ‘friendship’ with Monroe’ into a movie. Whatever.
Marilyn Monroe lived twice on the same street in Beverly Hills, first on 718 North Palm Dr., with her married lover and agent Johnny Hyde who asked her twice to marry her, jet she said ‘I am in love with you, but I don’t love you,’ and then, with husband No. 2, Joe DiMaggio Marilyn moved to 508 N. Palm Dr. — interesting street I must say. What a ‘coincidence’ yet since we all quite well know that there aren’t coincidences in life, we can also refer to this ‘accidents’ as destiny, karma, or whatever fits ‘Cinderella’s foot’ the most.
http://www.pr-inside.com/marilyn-monroe-is-free-bippity-r512933.htm
‘gir’ ~ ‘Gilbert Wham’ – is just another classic example of the ‘Lori Drews’ that are out there. They post like ‘gir’ and they post things that they would never post under their real identity. They love to fool people, ‘play them like fiddles’ and spread their hate all over the Internet.
When we exposed the ‘Sex tape claims’ as a fresh but stupid and ridiculous hoax,
http://defamer.com/380219/exclusive-debunking-the-marilyn-monroe-sex-tape-hoax
they got as hateful and ugly as they do it 24/7 on their inbreed and moniker heaven for fraud sellers, peddlers and professional pork producers / packers from Canada.
They don’t even want to talk about Marilyn Monroe anymore, they just want to hate, hate and hate again. Hate is the mantra of the Marilyn Monroe fan club community–because Marilyn Monroe is still creating more headlines than Britney Spears for example. And these haters are made of hate, jealousy, greed and anger. If Marilyn Monroe was alive she would do this or that….this is how people like ‘gir’ or ‘Gilbert Wham’ whose identity is of course also a made up one an is one and the same. No, if Marilyn Monroe was alive, we would not have had to face people like Jeanne Carmen, Robert Slatzer, June DiMaggio, etc. and an entire library filled with outrageous and just simply stupid tries to hammer a murder conspiracy into our minds. Well, where there is no proof and just a limping gospel, there is no believe and there is no trust either.
Again, this hater followship that I am so ‘delighted’ to have grown is just a pack of rotten racists, liars, criminals who peddled fakes on eBay and live auctions, who sold phony stories and supported phone ‘MM friends’ and their family members as Mr. Brandon James–who simply followed us as well to every blog site (he now also has a ‘Jeanne Carmen’ memorial on wordpress), have posted the most ugly and disgusting things–yet, he didn’t succeed. His mom is now officially cut out of the Marilyn Monroe history. Why? Because she never had one single piece of evidence to back up her lies. Not one single snapshot of her and Marilyn? Come on, even June DiMaggio pulled better tricks than that when she lied into the entire media–worldwide when she talked about her insanity claim of delivering an anchovy pizza to Monroe’s home (LMAO again), the day before MM was found dead.
http://www.markbellinghaus.com/english.html
She also claimed that after MM was removed from her home, Junie star, the darling sweetheart who was married to Barbara Klein, ‘Barbie’ claimed to have had a key to Monroe’s Brentwood home, and that she went back, retrieved her ‘pizza pan,’ a teddy bear with pearl necklace, a nightgown, some old shoes, etc. If that really had happened, any normal person would think that she needs help. But since it is such a hideous claim, we feel sorry for the actress / singer who is btw turning 85 in four days.
I wouldn’t be amazed if the MM fans community would celebrate her birthday–oh and yeah, let’s not forget that Ken Knoll, the official ‘manager’ of June DiMaggio claimed that I had ‘threatened June DiMaggio,’ so he made it of course onto the list of our top ten liars and hoax creators (look for that one in our book
http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_3717809
Happy Birthday, Ms June ‘Fabricator and bad actress’ Alpino aka DiMaggio. We wish you well, and if you had taken some acting lessons with Austrian acting coach Natasha Lytess, the woman who was madly in love–with Marilyn, or even British Helena Sorrell, you might have been believable, when you rolled your eyes up north in a pathetic move and made us believe that sun damage exists and that some people look like turtles around their neck area especially.
Whoever had written that claim–maybe it was Mary Jane Popp? whoever–this is just too bad:
“Marilyn asked me: Junie, Why do they call me a star? the stars are up in heaven–I’m just a simple working performer.” LMAO – again…and again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYrMQS-KUdc&feature=related
Happy Birthday Junie, you made your place in Monroe history, just like your chaperone Mary Jane Popp, Robert W. Otto–as LIARS!
You gotta see this one, to believe how they pranked the public. EXCLUSIVE look at a group of charlatans, a 99% FRAUDULENT exhibit.
The truck, the boxes, the interview, the multi million claim, the FELTON HYCHE statements from the Queen Mary corporation–will make you too LYAO!
‘Bucks Bunny’ interview, pre-engagement BS claim, oh, the nightgown that June ‘retrieved,’ the circle is closed.
We shot this hoax down, the biggest exhibition fraud in history. Comparable to the fake Hitler diaries which duped the world in the 1980′s, or the fake Howard Hughes writings which inspired the movie HOAX.
That is why we have the haters following us, posting hate and BS while hiding behind monikers. They are so super jealous, because they are either part of the scam, or they hate us for succeeding with our mission.
Mission accomplished indeed. After a long fight, we can say that. And NOBODY will be able to take this away from us. Nobody, not even the devils from these fan clubs who hate anybody who makes a splash for Marilyn Monroe’s legacy.
Fleton Hyche, spokesperson for the Queen Mary corporation which became one of the defendants in the Marilyn Monroe fraud class action lawsuit in an interview, prior to the exhibit opening in Long Beach, CA,: ‘This will not be your typical museum visit.’
How right Mr. Hyche was with this statement, because I almost got a heart attack when I saw the junk, the trash, the phony baloney creations thrown on mannequins, into display cases and all of this turning Marilyn Monroe — for the regular visitor, into a dumb person who on top of this had no taste. Who wore crap from the 1980′s like the ‘VICTORIA’S SECRET DRESS’ in red, which was displayed as William Travilla made gown…
It was a well created nightmare–for collectors, experts and people who bought real Monroe memorabilia, like myself. People who trusted Anna Strasberg, and the estate of Marilyn Monroe–who acted as one of the sponsors, who gave permission, for this mega scam. This hoax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnev00Vr_Y&feature=related
Who cares? She’s dead. Dead dead dead.
She didn’t exactly invent the cure for cancer.
A few vaguely charming films. Again,
who cares? I see prettier women (especially now)
every day of the week. If she were still alive
she’d look like Bridget Bardot’s grandma, and we
all know how well THAT turned out.
I confess. I did it. Well… It makes as much sense as suggesting Bobby Kennedy did it. The reality is that she was an extremely fragile young woman, one who people exploited terribly during her lifetime. Her death was either a tragic accident or a tragic suicide. The exploitation continues today, because people can make money doing so.
oh my god
Mr. Bellinghaus, your medication needs adjustment. See your psychiatrist, stat.
Amen Euclid.
Mark Bellinghaus has his own Wikipedia entry. He is a professional Marilyn obsessive.
(cue predictable outrage)
I was just digging in the Marylin monroe fan club dirt. omg they are so nasty, and they use their finger for an universal greeting. maybe this is the new fan club hym of the future? I cannot use my real identity, I do not want to get aids blood threats from a crazy man….call me Rosie, but i’m more like Portia. Proud lesbian all American bird here
there us a whole community of lesbian girls in those fan clubs. even the Elvis fan clubs have them. but why are these people so hateful?
I totally must agree that the world has too many haters. This is for the haters especially, and if you are no hater, this isn’t for you of course
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHbStWgKw-A
I have had it with all these losers and liars who tell us another death speculation on Monroe. Look what happened to Anna Nicole, and that is exactly how it happened to Marilyn. Anna Nicole Smith checked out like her idol, or will there be another death speculation about Anna Nicole? She has been pretty much forgotten already.
Funny to see the vendetta of commentator euclid who said:
Who cares? She’s dead. Dead dead dead.
She didn’t exactly invent the cure for cancer.
A few vaguely charming films. Again,
who cares? I see prettier women (especially now)
every day of the week. If she were still alive
she’d look like Bridget Bardot’s grandma, and we
all know how well THAT turned out.
That my friend is just plain stupid. Because everyone can tell by all the comments you left that you ‘care’ the most. Why are being so bitter? Is she was alive, we don’t doubt that one, she would not be what she is now. But she is dead, and some folks are dead when they die. But some come to life even stronger than ever. I saw also Mr. Cunningham posting here. His book is one of my favorites. The pictures could be better quality but that isn’t his fault I guess.
I think the Marilyn Monroe murder mystery is history now. Too many came and claimed and it turned into a Marilyn Monroe murder carnival. But now the carnival is over and when someone claims the Bobby, JFK, the FBI or the mob killed her it won’t be even noticed anymore. Because we all know why these stupid claims are being made. Another book, another documentary on nothing, another media prank just like Keya Morgan pulled on on all of us.
Peter Dipshit, Florida:
WRONG AGAIN! I care that people are wasting their lives
obsessing about someone long dead when they could spend their
time and concern on those around them who are still living.
f you think my post is bitter, well, that’s your cup of cheese pal.
This thread is Delusion City. It seems that speculation about Marilyn’s death is A Bad Thing. But apparently Marilyn ‘came to life even stronger’ after she died. I don’t imagine that has anything to do with lots of people speculating about her death…?
With all respect to the recent commentator. What is it, or better why is it, that you have to hide your true identity? Do you think that then the reader will not immediately see through your little games that you have been playing with us? Treating us just like you people referred to us and Mark Bellinghaus especially: ‘silly goose.’
hahahaha and now what? You are still anonymous and I am not. But do you think that it isn’t obvious when you people call other posting commentators, who have the same right like all you negativity addicts?
For someone who believed that Monroe is just dead and was nothing, ‘euclid’ posted two comments and seems to keep on coming back. That is a whole lot of time and energy wasted for someone who claims these ugly and horrible things about Marilyn. Please, euclid, share with us what you think of Jeanne Carmen for example, because for some reason we are getting the impression that this hate towards Monroe is coming from a different corner. But of course, I might be wrong with this assumption. And I would also like to pass the same message on to ‘Joke Police’ who does not seem funny at all. Could it be that Joke Police and euclid are one and the same? It doesn’t really matter anyhow, because you cannot, will not–ever succeed with your hate against a phenomenon which has been reborn over and over ever since people called her a ‘hooker’ and prostitute, and now they are doing the same to Mark Bellinghaus. Did you people ever realize what has been going on in this matter? You cannot call people names, disgusting sickening names, and hide. There will be a new law soon, and what you do on the Internet, the attack you run against people–you will be able to be charged for it. Why is it so hard for you to discuss a book and not use foul language? Because I did foul language to show the public with which methods the Marilyn fan clubs are working. And here again–as long as I sign with my name, as long as you can try to charge me for it, it is legal.
But nobody has charged me for telling the truth, together with Jennifer J. Dickinson and Mark Bellinghaus. Now this thread has become very interesting. Because the public can see that there are some individuals, maybe only one or two in this case, who followed us again to another website. And if Melinda Mason has posted this article in order to push the JFK and RFK speculations, we should also give June DiMaggio a moment. She claimed that her mother was ‘on the phone’ with Marilyn when Marilyn ‘was killed.’
When I met June DiMaggio in 2005, she tried to not laugh while telling these tales, but I felt that she was pinching herself so she would keep a straight face.
Please use your real identities if you want to be taken serious. This Kindergarten nonsense hidden identity hater game is really getting old. If you hate it here, ‘Joke Police,’ why do you still come back then? Jill Adams would say at this moment: Hummmmm
And she would be sweating from showing us the finger, over and over again. Trying to hurt us, while we are laughing at her and the other sad plagiarists who have stolen our ideas for the past 2 1/2 years.
I would support also a law which makes you liable when you claim this or that about the FBI, just because it is selling your book, makes your Keya Morgan tales more believable?
Again: Marilyn Monroe is still in the news, and this year was one of the best so far. Why? Because of this.
is it true ?
Joke Police isn’t my real name. But then Marilyn Monroe wasn’t a real name either.
I’m not a MM hater. Just not interested. Sorry. I am a fan of Hecklerspray and I’m also developing a growing interest in poking internet crazies.
I think people whose livelihoods depend on public interest in Marilyn should be very happy about these kind of stories. More coverage in the news, more book sales, ker-ching etc.
Anyway, back to reality.
Damn, there sure are a lot of words here.
I am not going to read them.
Not much time or energy actually Earnest C.
What are these hateful things I’ve said?
That MM is dead? I think we’ve established that.
That if she were alive, she would be old?
Well, everyone else ages, so I just assumed
she would too. Magic powers had she?
If so, it seems they didn’t work too well. I have no idea who
Jeanne Carmen is, and therefore think nothing of her.
You do seem to exist however, and I think you are unwell.
A good indication that led me to always believe that both John and Robert Kennedy were directly involved in killing Marilyn Monroe is the fact that both Kennedys were soon assassinated afterward.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
Bobby Kennedy was said to be somewhat listless after John’s death, supposedly over the grief of the loss of his brother. I have always believed that his behavior was due to the shocking realization that John suffered a divine judgment for her murder and that he was in danger of incurring the same. The bullet that eventually killed Bobby was supposedly miraculously reflected off the ceiling into his head.
Yeah, right Wm: the Easter Bunny did it. Cripes.
The Easter Bunny killed Jesus Christ too. Fucking rabbit is a god damned menace.
Here’s a conspiracy theory:
Mark Bellinghaus is also posting as Ernest Cunningham. Look at the similarities; same multi-paragraph ramblings, the same angry tone that’s condemning hate, the same psychotic obsession about Marilyn… the list goes on and on.
They’re one in the same I tells ya.
MARK BELLINGHAUS IS THE EASTER BUNNy
But what I really meant to say is that I have NO LIFE at all, because is all I do, is follow Mark Bellinghaus AND Ernest Cunningham everywhere I go. I am so bored here in New Zealand and I spend sometimes entire days deleting people from Wikipedia. I was recently exposed as a disgusting CARBUNCLE, yeah, I like sarcasm and get off when other people get deleted. Because evil is my Church. I named myself White Witch and followed them all, everywhere. Oh it is so much fun to report people, have them deleted and then lie about William Travilla costumes. I love to support the ugliness of society, because that is why they also call me New Zealand witch. That is not to be mistaken for the one from Finland. She is my friend and we have established a hater fan club. Marilyn Monroe? Ha! She means nothing to us, never did. I tried to look like her, recently cut my hair and now I am saving some cash for a good ol’ nose job. My hook is in my way to fame. Geeze Louise, I am 45 1/2 and Marilyn was dead at 36. I think I should never try Marilyn impersonations. Oh, maybe that is why people were laughing so hard when I started to sing?
Let’s have another Long Island Ice Tea. Vodka, Barcady, Rum, Tequila, Gin and Cola, and whatever else to make me forget that I’m a hateful bitch!
Bye, I am off to Wiki, gotta delete more, it gives me a certain feeling of importance and power, when I am not drunk or try to sing, scream is maybe a better word for it….
Oh by the way, I hate Kiwis too.
hey sister Pauline, how are the is my fav Berry? I like them ripe you know? Can you please send me another box of those green shell New Zealand mussels? Our Finnish mussels are poisoned because of the environment waste that is killing life on earth too. I have been thinking about what we can do next. I have no clue. Maybe claim that good is bad and bad is good? How about that? How about we finally come clean and tell the world that we are all haters, and that our fan club is just bs? How about that, sister?
Oh I love Hecklerspray too, Joke Police. I find it so much fun to hate the successful ones, the ones that are absolutely right. Right is wrong and wrong is right in my Finnish books of hate philosophy. Oh and did I tell you that I am excellent in copying people? I steal their words, all of them, I steal their ideas, I didn’t even know what a blog was, until I got my lazy fat vegetarian ass off of my XL office chair and thought that something had to be done…and I wanted to be famous. So I attacked and now I am famous. I have shitheads like the weirdo trans Hillary on my site, but hey, you gotta start somewhere. Even if it is at the circus. Freak show starts in 20 minutes folks. The male who is beating women, shim is now speaking: Hillary’s story. Next stop: Fake Marilyn Monroe fabricators love my club. They are all welcome. Oh and if you are a full blood racist, don’t worry, our fan club loves you if God doesn’t.
Preface
Ah, how oft we read or hear of
Boys we almost stand in fear of!
For example, take these stories
Of two youths, named Max and Moritz,
Who, instead of early turning
Their young minds to useful learning,
Often leered with horrid features
At their lessons and their teachers.
Look now at the empty head: he
Is for mischief always ready.
Teasing creatures – climbing fences,
Stealing apples, pears, and quinces,
Is, of course, a deal more pleasant,
And far easier for the present,
Than to sit in schools or churches,
Fixed like roosters on their perches
But O dear, O dear, O deary,
When the end comes sad and dreary!
‘Tis a dreadful thing to tell
That on Max and Moritz fell!
All they did this book rehearses,
Both in pictures and in verses.
First Trick: The Widow
The boys tie several crusts of bread together with thread, and lay this trap in an old widow’s chicken yard, causing all the chickens to become fatally entangled.
Second Trick: The Widow II
As the widow cooks her chickens, the boys sneak onto her roof. When she leaves her kitchen momentarily, the boys steal the chickens using a fishing pole down the chimney. The widow hears her dog barking and hurries upstairs, finds the hearth empty and beats the dog.
Third Trick: The Tailor
The boys torment a well-liked tailor who has a fast stream flowing in front of his house. They saw through the planks of his wooden bridge, making a precarious gap, then taunt him by making goat noises, until he runs outside. The bridge breaks; the tailor is swept away and nearly drowns (but for two geese, which he grabs a hold of and fly high to safety).
Fourth Trick: The Teacher
While their devout teacher is busy at church, the boys invade his home and fill his favorite pipe with gunpowder. When he lights the pipe, the blast knocks him unconscious, blackens his skin and burns away all his hair.
Fifth Trick: The Uncle
The boys collect bags full of May beetles, which they promptly deposit in their Uncle’s (Fritz) bed. Uncle is nearly asleep when he feels the bugs walking on his nose. Horrified, he goes into a bug-killing frenzy with a shoe.
Sixth Trick: The Baker
The boys invade a bakery which they believe is closed. Attempting to steal pretzels, they fall into a vat of dough. The baker returns, catches the breaded pair, and bakes them. But they survive, and escape by gnawing through their crusts.
Final Trick: The Farmer
Hiding out in a farmer’s grain storage area, the boys slit some grain sacks. A farmer arrives and immediately notices the problem. He puts the boys in the sack instead, then takes it to the mill. The boys are ground to bits and devoured by ducks. Later, no one expresses regret! (The mill really exists in Ebergötzen, Germany, and can be visited)
I AM NOT MARK BELLINGHAUS. You got to have a lot of balls if you want to play tennis the way I do.
I don’t agree with hate. Especially hidden hate as it has been displayed by some individuals that are just obvious to anyone who is against crimes. If it is memorabilia fraud, or if it is supporting fake exhibitions about dead movie stars. Fake is fake and when people pay to see fakes, thinking they are lookig at authentic by in this case Marilyn Monroe worn items, it is also a crime.
I have emailed Mr. Bellinghaus twice before I decided to big on some Marilyn Monroe memorabilia. I was given advice and that at no charge.
It is fascinating how many people have accused Bellinghaus, Cunningham and now also Dickinson of crimes, when it is just obvious what is happening. It is a hate campaign initiated by haters. They use very ugly methods. They also copy every word Bellinghaus and Cunningham had written, and they throw it back as them as their own creations. These Marilyn Monroe fan club people have lost many times and many fights. They just pretend as if nothing happened and they try to smile and continue their dirty business of screwing the public. I am glad that finally we learned what fan clubs and online forums are really about.
seriously? you are asking who killed marilyn? i am sick of this stupid question. who killed jimi hendrix, jim morrison kurt cobain, and anna nicole smith, and who killed heath ledger? it’s all about selling a story, a book a magazine, whatever. she killed herself because of the haters that always existed. jealous people too.
People who are hiding behind monikers are just sad. Can someone please send me some Paxil please? No seriously, if you go to these forums on anything, it is just boring and stupid and I think it is really so yesterday to blog or even post on forums where haters posting as sweet Dorothy but then you find out that they only want you to buy their trashy books’n stuff. I gotta agree with the hobby rocket scientist that Marilyn took her own life. And I certainly don’t believe that it was ‘accidental.’ That is another claim just as if some weirdo once claimed that she had six toes.
this is so cool, my Lindsay girl is coming out with some leggings and names her after Marilyn Monroe’s birthday 6126. Good girl. love it.
We get Hecklerspray in heaven. God just told me this thread was getting out of hand so I thought I’d come in and clear it up.
It was Professor Plum in the library with the lead piping.
I’m confused – I feel a bit like John Connor at the end of T2 when he’s not sure which is the T-1000 and which one is his mom.
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