Another day, another decision to remake/sequelise/spin-off an existing movie. This time it’s Venom’s turn.
Yes, for those that saw Spider-Man 3 – he’s the one played by Topher Grace off That 70s Show. He’s the one that should have been one of the best villains in comic movie history, but instead ended up being a complete rush job, thus making one of Spider-Man’s greatest foes actually a big pile of crud.
|Plus he appared to die in the film, so how Sony are going to play this we don’t really know. Time machine? A ‘he’s dead or is he OR IS HE’ angle? Ignoring the film, thus rendering his appearance in the Spider-Man movie worthless? Which it was.
It’ll probably be the third. And we bet Sam Raimi will be happy about that, after being forced to incorporate Venom into his movie in the first place.
Ah, Hollywood.
While it’s not new news that a Venom film is in the pipeline, it has just come about that Sony are pushing for the picture to be released quicksmart. Obviously wanting to ride the wave of popularity created by the successes of both Iron Man and The Dark Knight and seeing that there is, maybe, a place in the mass market for the darker side of comic books, the company have been more or less forced to play their hand.
While a script was already written for the movie, the execs have apparently decided it isn’t up to par and have sent out the word that they’re looking for a new one. The hecklerspray script is on its way, guys! Though we’re sure they’ll pick some no-talent arseclown to pen the bloody thing and it will all go wrong, leaving comic book geeks around the world frothing at the eyeballs.
It’s just that… well… they’ll get it wrong, won’t they? They’ll make Venom into some kind of pansy, or will hamfistedly force in some relatability to the character to try and make the audience sympathise with his plight.
Or they’ll probably make him pink and shoot flower-coated puppies out of his anus as he travels the galaxy bringing happiness and free rainbows to everyone.
Not that we’re cynical or anything – we just can’t see how Sony expect to work it.
Certainly, the popular character’s co-creator, Todd McFarlane thinks they can make it work.
“You don’t want to scare the kids, because the kids love the character,” he said.
“But I think you could add a little bit of a creep factor. I mean, it never bugged me to watch Frankenstein as a kid, so you could have a little bit of it, as long as you have a good story backing it up.”
The Dark Knight is a very dark, depressing film with one of the finest portrayals of a truly twisted mentalist ever seen – but Batman is still a good guy. Iron Man isn’t that dark, and he’s a good guy too. The announced X-Men Origins: Wolverine is sure to tread this same gritty, dark path but – again – Wolverine is a good guy. Conflicted, capable of being a bit maniacal yes – but still a good guy.
Sony will not be able to make major blockbuster work if it’s about a bad guy. The mass-market they so crave just won’t buy into it – they seem to forget that people are idiots. And if the most recent Spider-Man movie was anything to go by, not only will it be a flop, it’ll be shit too.
We’re just saying.
Shooty* says
The mists are clearing… I see… I see The Crow. But with an alien symbiote suit… I see a vigilante angle…
I DON’T see Carnage. Or the pathetic shrieking noise which was Venom’s only audio contribution to Spiderman 3.
Die Hard 4’s really good, by the way.
machernucha says
they could go all out and put in some weird Madame web angle in there, like she portals him thru time.
i also read that topher grace isnt in the running to star in this.
Carnage or Anti-venom would be an awesome addition to this. but i fear itll go the way of spiderman3 (rubbish)
die hard 4 was a let down!
urdumbsoami says
ya because you know a lot about ‘HOLLYWOOD’ all the motion picture studios/writers and producers all collectively sit around a camp fire with comic books saying MOVIE YES or MOVIE NO.
perhaps your dumbass story should be titles, why can’t WRITERS create original content to sell to studios……
give an idiot a website on the internet you know it all…. while the reality of those who have a brain know better than your weak reporting.
Foolishgold says
might just be that as Venom is portrayed in several books by Diane Duane as a vigilante who has a penchant for actually killing his targets they might go with that, still a ‘good guy’ but lots of bloody ripping and tearing?
justsomeguy says
Although, in the comic books, Venom wasn’t really a bad guy. Sure he starts out as a maniacal killer, but he’s really only a bad guy out to get Peter Parker/Spider-Man by the belief that it was the web-slinger’s fault for ruining “their” lives.
But in reality, Eddie Brock just wanted to do good, protect people. And because of the symbiote twisting his hate and anger, his vigilante style showed no mercy to those who he believed to be villains.
This at least, according to my memory of the comic books.
Randy Tayler says
COULDN’T AGREE MORE. It’s just too hard to make a movie that revolves around the villain. “Day of the Jackal” (both the novel and the film) and its remake are notable for this plot style, but you will not get a script that advanced for a comic book adaptation. It’s much easier to just assume that the majority of moviegoers don’t know who Venom is supposed to be, and so they’ll retcon him to being a troubled hero or something.
And the fanboys will still pay to come, too, because, “Hey, it’s VENOM!”
josh says
The Venom movie is going to be produced by Marvel Studios. They’re the ones that rebooted The Incredible Hulk by basically ignoring the first movie because it did not fit properly into the continuity that they wanted. Sam Raimi will probably not be involved and they’ll probably get good writers that know a thing or two about Spider-Man and Venom. Topher Grace shouldn’t return because he doesn’t fit what Eddie Brock looks like, at all. Spider-Man 3 will likely be entirely ignored for this movie because Marvel Studios didn’t produce that movie and is not likely to have many involved with the current Spider-Man movie franchise involved in this movie. Also, there are plenty of story arcs that this movie could be based off of, or something completely new, in which Venom could act as an anti-hero, most likely with Carnage as the villain.
peanut says
the only way it would work would be to have these hollywood writers & directors get off their ass & read a few of the venom story lines in the amazing spider man series from his origin to his quest to destroy peter parker. hes main thing is to kill peter not really spider man. the suit hates peter for rejecting it & eddie brock hates peter for ruining his carrer. the comic get really dark & he’s the only character from the spider man universe to get his own spin off comics actually quite a few. so marvel knows that he has a big fan base. thats why they made sami put him in sm3. imagen if the commercials of sm3 had the sandman in them & no suit or hint of venom… they onlt made all that money cuz people coulndnt wait to see venom come to life & they killed him after a few minutes in the film.
Dude says
i never read the comics, or even followed the cartoon but i remembered catching the end some episode of the mid 90’s cartoon version in which the venom guy is freaking out and doesn’t know what to do with himself and…….any way i’ve always liked the character and i jumped on wikipedia to check it out, and i loved the whole personal demon vigilante story, i liked the constant fight between brock and the symbiote and the eventual creation of anti-venom. i just hope the Hollywood dudes take the time to look up the story and keep true to it.
Rich says
“Sony will not be able to make major blockbuster work if it
Clifford says
There’s been lots of blockbuster movies about badguys. I don’t get why so many people think it won’t work because it’s based on a character in a comic book.
People love the badguy movies. If your reading this it means you have access to the net. Take some time to google movie bad guys, then use your imagination a bit.
Only thing we really need to worry about is, Freddy vs Jason vs Venom. Then of course the writer that can’t think of anything sends spidey to save the day.
Violet says
Exactly what I was thinking… I mean, literally, I sent an email a couple days ago to a friend and said, almost word for word, the exact same things you did. And then I saw how long ago you wrote it. And then I realized you wrote it on my birthday. Wow, Josh, very cool. -V-
Koppenhaver says
jesus christ, okay lets settle this.
give me control of the movie and ill make sure it doesnt go down the pooper. anyone else who wants a say can join but youll have to prove your worthiness as a venom fan. not just facts of what has happened in his fictional life, but how he would most likely react to certain situations and how he thinks.
How fucking hard is that? get some goddamn writers who can meet this criteria and let them take it away. Want it creepy but child friendly? Lethal protector. now he killed people and his mentality is definetly dark but theres methods of showing this without saying, hey kids, he just ate that guys brains. seriously, its not that fucking hard its been done before. they just need to actualyl sit down and THINK!
so, if you movie makers dont wanna do that, give the job to me and a few of these other guys and well do your job. otherwise, hire the right people.
and yes i know no one here is involved in the making, i just wana bitch like that..venoms my fav and they ruined him in spiderman3
Lasher66 says
If they use the “lethal Protector” idea from the 80’s it could work. Venom’s moral compass is a little broken so he has a weird sense of justice. I think the movie was a croc of shit. Spiderman is smart and all but it took him a long time to figure it all out. Brock has all of spiderman’s abilities and just the two weaknesses. He can make his suit into any clothes he wants as well as he doesn’t set off spidey’s sense of danger cause his powers are the same. Basically he is the ultimate villain and a “Rorschach” like hero. We love heroes and all but a good villain should antagonize the hero for a looong time. If we make him a good guy he’ll lose his edge as a bad ass.
“the only thing people love more than a hero is to watch him fall or die trying”
Comic Movie MAGIC says
I hope for carnage.. though not likely… VENOM is ACTUALLY an “Anti-hero” in other words he was NEVER a bad guy… he just REALLY hated spidey… and yea he did tend to kill his “bad guys” but so did the punisher.. also an anti-hero….
Comic Movie MAGIC says
oh… and i hope to high heck that they dig up the “Mr. Hide” rubbers from that “league of extraordinay gentleman” movie so that venom has the Super-D lood he should have had and they forgot about in Spiderman3
Adam says
It is so pathetic how you guys cannot enjoy movies. Spider-Man 3 was awesome. Just because you guys cannot follow more than one storyline at a time, or just becuase Venom wasn’t given a lot of time, doesn’t mean the movie sucked. I cared a lot more about the storyline between Peter and Harry and how at the end Harry helps Peter. The movie concluded a great trilogy. And tell you the truth Peter dealing with his dark side was more interesting than anything Venom can do. Yea you can whine all you want but it is so sad you cannot enjoy movies. Just face it, COMIC BOOKS AND MOVIES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME. ALWAYS WILL SEE DIFFERENT VERSIONS THAN IN THE COMICS! DEAL WITH IT AND MAYBE JUST FINALLY ENJOY THE MOVIES FOR WHAT THEY ARE, OR SHUT UP!!!! STOP WATCHING THEM CAUSE YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED.
tornicade says
Topher grace should of been cast as spider man. I thought that all along and seeing him in spiderman 3 proved it without a doubt. Ill have to agree though venom isnt really suited for him. Venom is a symbiote and outside oof its rage at spider man tends to like to protect innocent life. Venom doesnt have to be eddie brock they can make it any of a variety of host. . although starting venom out as eddie brocks wife then having eddie brock come back would suit the storyline and make a good story.. especially if they kill her off.I would guess if sam raimi had no interest in venom he wouldnt have any interest in carnage either.
Nikolai says
i was also thinking that topher grace could be cast as spiderman. basicly because i think topher & tobey look sort of similar. but it’s nice to see someone has a similar opinion.
andries price says
i like topher grace on venom and spiderman 4 it’s awsome i like topher grace he’s cool and awsome also he did stunts i like topher grace as venom on venom movie and spiderman i like grace he’s and great man he did a cool venom so i will see topher grace on spiderman 4 and venom in theatres coming soon i like topher grace as venom he’s cool im a venom fan.