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	<title>Comments on: Stephen King Hates Twilight As Much As You Do! Hooray!</title>
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		<title>By: Yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the last 2 books are more of the battle, but the begging HP books are more about the development of friendship and finding his identity, and there is a bit of romance in the middle of the series.</description>
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		<title>By: dinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>dinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 12:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t fool me, this is stephen king isn&#039;t it?
But seriously, I sat down to watch the Twilight movie on tv because my friends, who loved the books and seen the movies, said it was really good.Lets just say I&#039;ll never trust them again. I found the movie to be dreary and bland, it felt like I was watching a really long episode of a not so good tv show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t fool me, this is stephen king isn&#8217;t it?<br />
But seriously, I sat down to watch the Twilight movie on tv because my friends, who loved the books and seen the movies, said it was really good.Lets just say I&#8217;ll never trust them again. I found the movie to be dreary and bland, it felt like I was watching a really long episode of a not so good tv show.</p>
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		<title>By: KimiBunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimiBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU for saying that. I have to say that it&#039;s good to see someone who truly appreciates his work and looks deeper than the most recent of his movies/books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU for saying that. I have to say that it&#8217;s good to see someone who truly appreciates his work and looks deeper than the most recent of his movies/books.</p>
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		<title>By: KimiBunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimiBunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you to @theOrator i loved your point, also thank you @walle 
Honestly, it seriously hurts as a writer to see one writer criticize another. Yes, it&#039;s a hard world, and it&#039;s difficult to make it. It&#039;s great that Meyer is doing well in the writing world, however I would like to say that it hurt watching the Twilight movies. Most books are hands-down, better than the movies, however with Twilight, it&#039;s hard to tell. Mostly for the reason that Twilight has so many flaws in terms of writing conventions. Were you to, like another member said, replace the long words in Meyer&#039;s work with synonyms, there isn&#039;t much to her writing. Her story line arc is extremely anti-climactic. Most of the writing in her books is much like a diary gushing over a cute boy at school. Like theOrator said, most of it doesn&#039;t deal with &quot;true love&#039; and speaks mostly of feelings of lust. King, even in his earliest books, such as The Shining, which was his second novel, (Second New York Best Seller&#039;s out of over 45 others) deals with internal conflicts and emotional aspects of love, family, and many other themes. If you took the time to read the foreword or even the story, that would become apparent to you. Meyer has released several Twilight novels, all of which follow pretty much the same story line arc and lack of literary elements as the ones prior. Stephen King, though his writing career was somewhat rough, as you may read in his biography, releases writings that speak to more age groups. Both writers have released New York Best Seller&#039;s, but which writer&#039;s works actually speak to many age groups in more ways than love, sex, and danger? Which ones truly exemplify emotional depth and versatility? Meyer has her one claim to fame-Twilight. Stephen King&#039;s writings have been adapted into over 40 TV Shows and movies, all of which have found large success, with the exception of &quot;The Mist&quot;-a.k.a. the only movie mentioned in the above article. I find it very unfair of the author of this article to use this movie as an example and exclude the others, such as &quot;Carrie&quot; (based on Stephen King&#039;s first novel) &quot;The Shining&quot; &quot;Shawshank Redemption&quot; &quot;Misery&quot; &quot;Storm of the Century&quot; &quot;Children of the Corn&quot; &quot;Stand by Me&quot; &quot;Hearts in Atlantis&quot; &quot;The Green Mile&quot; and many more. 
          Looking at the differences in genre in the above movies, it is apparent that King is not only a master of horror and suspense, as many critics would comment, but also a master of the sociological aspects within these writings. For example, &quot;Hearts in Atlantis&quot; does not focus on dead horror or suspense, but also the emotional gaps in a boys childhood during the 1960&#039;s, as well as cultural features of its time. It is a reminiscent writing to which people of all ages can relate. Contrasting this is the movie, &quot;It&quot; which does show his ability to write in the horror genre. There are many movies that fill the gap between his non-horror and horror, and all of these writings have been successful. Also, Stephen King&#039;s writings capture stories with different voice and narrative in each. Though many are written in first person narrative, the book, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, for example, shows his ability to write from different perspectives-this story&#039;s perspective being written from a young girl lost in the woods. 
               Stephen King&#039;s writings include many different pieces that appeal to many different people. To judge without further reading than one or two pieces is entirely unfair. In reading the Twilight novels, you will not find much diversity in writing elements, just as in Meyer&#039;s collections, you will not find different pieces that speak to multiple audience types. 
               All-in-all, Stephen King does have status over Meyer, and while his criticism may or may not be out of good motives, he does address extremely valid issues within Meyer&#039;s writings and make very good points. His status and motives do not change the validity of his statement, were you to investigate for yourself. His status would be likely only to change the bias of those who read his commentary. As a last point, @coling, Stephen King has not published a book in years, as he wants to keep the integrity of his writing, and not release &quot;watered-down&quot; or lesser forms of writing into his collection. As a writer with so many best sellers behind you, wouldn&#039;t you like to quit while you are still ahead? Regardless of the books he has or has not released, Meyer has none of the elements King had to establish herself as a writer as of yet. Am I condemning her entirely? Hardly. I am merely stating that Stephen King has a very valid argument, regardless of how he presents his information. It is not necessarily right to speak of others in such a manner, however quality of writing is key in becoming a writer of truly quality works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you to @theOrator i loved your point, also thank you @walle<br />
Honestly, it seriously hurts as a writer to see one writer criticize another. Yes, it&#8217;s a hard world, and it&#8217;s difficult to make it. It&#8217;s great that Meyer is doing well in the writing world, however I would like to say that it hurt watching the Twilight movies. Most books are hands-down, better than the movies, however with Twilight, it&#8217;s hard to tell. Mostly for the reason that Twilight has so many flaws in terms of writing conventions. Were you to, like another member said, replace the long words in Meyer&#8217;s work with synonyms, there isn&#8217;t much to her writing. Her story line arc is extremely anti-climactic. Most of the writing in her books is much like a diary gushing over a cute boy at school. Like theOrator said, most of it doesn&#8217;t deal with &#8220;true love&#8217; and speaks mostly of feelings of lust. King, even in his earliest books, such as The Shining, which was his second novel, (Second New York Best Seller&#8217;s out of over 45 others) deals with internal conflicts and emotional aspects of love, family, and many other themes. If you took the time to read the foreword or even the story, that would become apparent to you. Meyer has released several Twilight novels, all of which follow pretty much the same story line arc and lack of literary elements as the ones prior. Stephen King, though his writing career was somewhat rough, as you may read in his biography, releases writings that speak to more age groups. Both writers have released New York Best Seller&#8217;s, but which writer&#8217;s works actually speak to many age groups in more ways than love, sex, and danger? Which ones truly exemplify emotional depth and versatility? Meyer has her one claim to fame-Twilight. Stephen King&#8217;s writings have been adapted into over 40 TV Shows and movies, all of which have found large success, with the exception of &#8220;The Mist&#8221;-a.k.a. the only movie mentioned in the above article. I find it very unfair of the author of this article to use this movie as an example and exclude the others, such as &#8220;Carrie&#8221; (based on Stephen King&#8217;s first novel) &#8220;The Shining&#8221; &#8220;Shawshank Redemption&#8221; &#8220;Misery&#8221; &#8220;Storm of the Century&#8221; &#8220;Children of the Corn&#8221; &#8220;Stand by Me&#8221; &#8220;Hearts in Atlantis&#8221; &#8220;The Green Mile&#8221; and many more.<br />
          Looking at the differences in genre in the above movies, it is apparent that King is not only a master of horror and suspense, as many critics would comment, but also a master of the sociological aspects within these writings. For example, &#8220;Hearts in Atlantis&#8221; does not focus on dead horror or suspense, but also the emotional gaps in a boys childhood during the 1960&#8242;s, as well as cultural features of its time. It is a reminiscent writing to which people of all ages can relate. Contrasting this is the movie, &#8220;It&#8221; which does show his ability to write in the horror genre. There are many movies that fill the gap between his non-horror and horror, and all of these writings have been successful. Also, Stephen King&#8217;s writings capture stories with different voice and narrative in each. Though many are written in first person narrative, the book, The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon, for example, shows his ability to write from different perspectives-this story&#8217;s perspective being written from a young girl lost in the woods.<br />
               Stephen King&#8217;s writings include many different pieces that appeal to many different people. To judge without further reading than one or two pieces is entirely unfair. In reading the Twilight novels, you will not find much diversity in writing elements, just as in Meyer&#8217;s collections, you will not find different pieces that speak to multiple audience types.<br />
               All-in-all, Stephen King does have status over Meyer, and while his criticism may or may not be out of good motives, he does address extremely valid issues within Meyer&#8217;s writings and make very good points. His status and motives do not change the validity of his statement, were you to investigate for yourself. His status would be likely only to change the bias of those who read his commentary. As a last point, @coling, Stephen King has not published a book in years, as he wants to keep the integrity of his writing, and not release &#8220;watered-down&#8221; or lesser forms of writing into his collection. As a writer with so many best sellers behind you, wouldn&#8217;t you like to quit while you are still ahead? Regardless of the books he has or has not released, Meyer has none of the elements King had to establish herself as a writer as of yet. Am I condemning her entirely? Hardly. I am merely stating that Stephen King has a very valid argument, regardless of how he presents his information. It is not necessarily right to speak of others in such a manner, however quality of writing is key in becoming a writer of truly quality works.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I literally just laughed out loud.</description>
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		<title>By: theOrator</title>
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		<dc:creator>theOrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve watched Stephen King&#039;s movies over the years, and have enjoyed myself each time. From Carrie to the Green Mile, from Shawshank Redemption (one of the best stories ever) to, and I can&#039;t believe people forgot about this movie, Pet Sematary, every movie contained a plot that was intriguing and kept my eyes glued to the screen. Years later, I attempted to watch the first Twilight movie after renting it from Blockbuster, and each time over that 3-day period I fell asleep before getting even 20 minutes into the film. So needless to say that as a fan of Stephen King&#039;s work, I find myself both disagreeing with and offended by the author of this article&#039;s point, as not only does my Mom enjoy a number of his works (dispelling the idea that his works target 14-year old boys), but also that I enjoy his work, and I am not only 26 years old but also practice good hygiene daily. 

All I can say is that love him or hate him, Stephen King had a very good point in describing Stephanie Meyer&#039;s works, there&#039;s nothing interesting or captivating about them, unless your a pubescent girl who hasn&#039;t had any real dating experience at all, or a woman who hasn&#039;t yet figured out how to maintain a proper relationship and what real men are supposed to be like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve watched Stephen King&#8217;s movies over the years, and have enjoyed myself each time. From Carrie to the Green Mile, from Shawshank Redemption (one of the best stories ever) to, and I can&#8217;t believe people forgot about this movie, Pet Sematary, every movie contained a plot that was intriguing and kept my eyes glued to the screen. Years later, I attempted to watch the first Twilight movie after renting it from Blockbuster, and each time over that 3-day period I fell asleep before getting even 20 minutes into the film. So needless to say that as a fan of Stephen King&#8217;s work, I find myself both disagreeing with and offended by the author of this article&#8217;s point, as not only does my Mom enjoy a number of his works (dispelling the idea that his works target 14-year old boys), but also that I enjoy his work, and I am not only 26 years old but also practice good hygiene daily. </p>
<p>All I can say is that love him or hate him, Stephen King had a very good point in describing Stephanie Meyer&#8217;s works, there&#8217;s nothing interesting or captivating about them, unless your a pubescent girl who hasn&#8217;t had any real dating experience at all, or a woman who hasn&#8217;t yet figured out how to maintain a proper relationship and what real men are supposed to be like.</p>
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		<title>By: team king</title>
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		<dc:creator>team king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 10:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>watched twilight. chucked $12 away.</description>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tottaly agree with you, I myself look up to Stephen King and he inspired me to start writing, but hearing him say someone elses writing sucks was shocking :0 Not everybody has the same writing style, maybe he doesn&#039;t understand that. I&#039;m not a Twilight fan and I love horror, love novels aren&#039;t my thing but I&#039;m not saying she&#039;s a bad writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tottaly agree with you, I myself look up to Stephen King and he inspired me to start writing, but hearing him say someone elses writing sucks was shocking :0 Not everybody has the same writing style, maybe he doesn&#8217;t understand that. I&#8217;m not a Twilight fan and I love horror, love novels aren&#8217;t my thing but I&#8217;m not saying she&#8217;s a bad writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stephenie Meyer writes books for 14-year-old girls who can’t spell &quot;
Well... that just about says it all really...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stephenie Meyer writes books for 14-year-old girls who can’t spell &#8221;<br />
Well&#8230; that just about says it all really&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: T Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for a laugh I thought I&#039;d watch that first Twilight film, even though it wasn&#039;t made for me.  It used to be, even fifteen years ago, that when a movie came out that was that successful, there was usually a reason for it.  With Twilight, there isn&#039;t.  Even that weird looking Pattinson guy knows the movies are absolute shit.  The thing that bothers me is that it&#039;s OBVIOUSLY bad.  Has culture really gotten to this point?  Why not just get a bunch of retards to write three pages, then have millions of dollars come to the table and produce it.  Don&#039;t have a story, don&#039;t have actors, don&#039;t have anything.  Just tell little girls that some guy is supposed to be hot and then put their pictures everywhere.  DONE.  Cha ching</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for a laugh I thought I&#8217;d watch that first Twilight film, even though it wasn&#8217;t made for me.  It used to be, even fifteen years ago, that when a movie came out that was that successful, there was usually a reason for it.  With Twilight, there isn&#8217;t.  Even that weird looking Pattinson guy knows the movies are absolute shit.  The thing that bothers me is that it&#8217;s OBVIOUSLY bad.  Has culture really gotten to this point?  Why not just get a bunch of retards to write three pages, then have millions of dollars come to the table and produce it.  Don&#8217;t have a story, don&#8217;t have actors, don&#8217;t have anything.  Just tell little girls that some guy is supposed to be hot and then put their pictures everywhere.  DONE.  Cha ching</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latter Day Saint, not Mormon and please don&#039;t use her as an example of our faith.  She is an idiot.</description>
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		<title>By: coling</title>
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		<dc:creator>coling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never read the Twilight books (and have no real desire to) but they can&#039;t be worse than Stephen King.  King hasn&#039;t written a good book in years and years.  I read his book on writing (which largely reads like a defense of his crappiness to critics), and in it he maintains that a person either can write or they can&#039;t.  He doesn&#039;t believe a person can learn or improve really, so what he said isn&#039;t that big a suprise.  It just annoys me that an author who continually fills his books with pointless sections that dont further the plot, sets limit on how much he&#039;ll edit his books to twice regardless of whether they need more editing or not, and can&#039;t end a story for the life of him (almost all of his books are good examples but &quot;Under the Dome&quot; might be the worst since you have to waste so much time reading it).  I&#039;ve given up on King and should have long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never read the Twilight books (and have no real desire to) but they can&#8217;t be worse than Stephen King.  King hasn&#8217;t written a good book in years and years.  I read his book on writing (which largely reads like a defense of his crappiness to critics), and in it he maintains that a person either can write or they can&#8217;t.  He doesn&#8217;t believe a person can learn or improve really, so what he said isn&#8217;t that big a suprise.  It just annoys me that an author who continually fills his books with pointless sections that dont further the plot, sets limit on how much he&#8217;ll edit his books to twice regardless of whether they need more editing or not, and can&#8217;t end a story for the life of him (almost all of his books are good examples but &#8220;Under the Dome&#8221; might be the worst since you have to waste so much time reading it).  I&#8217;ve given up on King and should have long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: ERL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ERL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but there are actual good love stories out there. Twilight isn&#039;t one of those.</description>
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		<title>By: cinnabunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnabunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sammyd-you&#039;re kidding, right? Yeah, Meyer&#039;s stories are more &quot;engaging&quot;. If you consider that nothing even remotely interesting happens until the last 20 pages of each book. And if you by into the whole BS that Edward and Bella are true love. The fact is that sexually frustrated women and girls can&#039;t tell the difference between love and lust/obsession-the latter of which certainly fits Edward and Bella. Those of us who have more than 2 brain cells aren&#039;t fooled. 
Your comments make me wonder how many King books you&#039;ve actually read-my guess is none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sammyd-you&#8217;re kidding, right? Yeah, Meyer&#8217;s stories are more &#8220;engaging&#8221;. If you consider that nothing even remotely interesting happens until the last 20 pages of each book. And if you by into the whole BS that Edward and Bella are true love. The fact is that sexually frustrated women and girls can&#8217;t tell the difference between love and lust/obsession-the latter of which certainly fits Edward and Bella. Those of us who have more than 2 brain cells aren&#8217;t fooled.<br />
Your comments make me wonder how many King books you&#8217;ve actually read-my guess is none.</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh please you can&#039;t compare Harry Potter with Twilight.
 Twilight is a lovestory and Harry Potter is the battle of a sorcerer&#039;s apprentice against Voldemort. 
The core of the storys is totaly different.
It is like you compare apples with blubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please you can&#8217;t compare Harry Potter with Twilight.<br />
 Twilight is a lovestory and Harry Potter is the battle of a sorcerer&#8217;s apprentice against Voldemort.<br />
The core of the storys is totaly different.<br />
It is like you compare apples with blubs.</p>
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