The dumbest sack of shit in pop, Lee Ryan is in no hurry to reunite
with his former Blue bandmates. Yeah, he says that now, but when
Channel Five come knocking for Celebrity Cattle Birth it might well be
a different story.
Ryan says of the talent-bypassed boy band:
"I don’t miss working with them. You could say we got sick of each other, though not friendship-wise. We all had different things we wanted to do and were sick of what we were doing."
Lee Ryan (CDs), currently to be seen chasing an upset horse in his video for Turn Your Car Around, is now a bona fide solo artist, album in Woolworths and everything.
Obviously he’s crap, that goes without saying, but he’s not scared of leaving behind a once successful career.
"I can’t go back. We said we’d come back but I never believed it."
Though there’s not much to risk when you’ve not yet reached your fifteenth birthday. Ryan has his whole job seeking life ahead of him. Plus with Paris Hilton now single again we think they would make a delightful showbiz couple.
As thick as dehydrated camel piss, but delightful all the same.
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[story by Chris Laverty]
Burlington says
Lee Ryan. What an ugly, ugly man and a sad, minging excuse for a human being. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
Angela says
Lee is not as thick as shit he’s just a young man trying to have fun with his life and you havn’t heard the other past members of blues comments on the reunion so shouldn’t really comment on lees views. Also you should take a long look in the fucking mirror before calling Lee Ryan ugly!
Christiane says
lee should think of what he´s saing he was with them for more than 4 years so its not good to talk like that about you´re friends you´re schould think of that is you´re past and its a part of you´re life and they are you´re friends one time you told that nobody else can understand what you´re bin througth just the 4 of you so don´t be like that but its good that you´re alone now it made you grow up and that´s good for you
take care Christiane
emma says
lee ryan is not ugly he is absolutly gorgeous,he can really sing too,unlike all these other boybands. Iam ur number 1 fan love u.take care and keep making ur music,lots of love emmaxxxxxxxxxxx
burlington says
A message for Angela – a nice try at an insult, the only problem is you have absolutely no idea what I look like and I could be Adam Levine from Maroon 5 for all you know(but as a fan of Lee Ryan I doubt you’ve ever heard of him.)
lisa says
lee ryan is NOT ugly and is definatey not thick… hes the one whos gone and made something of him self! wats ur job? typeing out sh!t about people u obviously dont know. Lee is extremely talented and is an amzing person and inspiration to alot of people. me being one of them
broken-heart says
to a preson who changed my life for ever-he doesn’t deserve this words from you( burlington).i like his personality alot . he has got a big heart.he deserve more than this.
he knows me pretty well.
with love:
broken-heart
Burlington says
Dear Broken-Heart (personally, my heart bleeds), I’m sure Lee feels fantastic that you are a ‘preson’ whose life has been changed by him, even if all he did was sign a publicity photograph and bung it in an envelope.
Lisa, I’m sure Lee can rest safely now he has been such an inspiration to you.
I now call for a renaming of this article – Lee Ryan: my face made me vomit.
amanda says
i love lee ryan! he is so smart,talented,pretty! i love his songs! blue was a great band! but now i see that lee is gona be fine with out them!he is my number 1 artist! lee is the best! so u all stand up as people and see what i see! dont say he sucks or hes stupid! PLEASE! LOVE U LEE AMANDA
amanda says
i love lee ryan! he is so smart,talented,pretty! i love his songs! blue was a great band! but now i see that lee is gona be fine with out them!he is my number 1 artist! lee is the best! so u all stand up as people and see what i see! dont say he sucks or hes stupid! PLEASE! LOVE U LEE AMANDA
leela says
lee is so beautiful
becki says
I love lee ryan how dare u say he’s ugly! OMG he’s gorgeous! N so talented! I realli miss blue n i wish they could get back together! I no lee is doin well by himself n i hope he keeps doin wut he’s doin!
Dont ever change lee u rock my world! xxx Becki xxx
James says
Lee Ryan looks like pickled road kill.
ROBERT FITCHET says
Lee ryan is not the dumb ugly twit and all the other nasty titles he,s had lately,think back to robbie williams wide arrogant drugs binges woman men?,lee is very similar arrogant foolish and very clever with it,take it from me LEE RYAN is a very clever man and will have a very successfull career with or without BLUE ,ok since when did it become a crime to have a laugh few pranks and get drunk etc whilst enjoying your job and take a little back,he is human and is entitled to a life offstage.I have followed his career for a long time and he is on the way to becoming the next robbie williams NOT hes gonna be better,as for the gay rumour so what if he is ,it takes all kinds to make the world a better place.LIVE AND LET LIVE STAND UP AS PEOPLE
Tammy says
hey guts its not time to bet in lee love even i love him /but lets talk little truthly / im so sad about what happeneed 2blue but that was in the past / lee..u must now that those three friends was part of ur gife 4 along time& u should be prowd of ur segf cos one day you was part of them (love u guys/lee/dunk/sim/ant)sweet kiss to agg of u.
Tammy says
pleas lee say that u didnt said that bad talk about ur friends but if that true just i can say i hope that all of u guys be one day my friend (lee /dunk/sim/ant) cos every one of u have ammaizing personality. (love u guys)
Carla Ryan says
No No! Lee Ryan is beautiful..who said that he is ugly must be an a** hole. Lee Ryan is d best.. its not his fault if they don’t have a perfect pitch!! Lee I am always your best fan!! Lv Carla
broken-heart says
look, maybe you think lee ryan suck but i think he does’t care about what his unfan people say..right gus??..he is so confedent and i think he is the most talented singer i have ever known..for example am arabic lady but i hate arabic i love u guys all the america peaple include the singers but lee is a defrent situation
i love u lee and dunk as well
salam salem says
hi lee u r my biggset fan i love u so much and i will always do
amanda says
lee i cant breath easy with out you! youre my big love!! enjoy youre music! with all my heart amanda
Burlington says
I bet Lee will breath easy knowing he has lots of fans with the same IQ as him, judging by those garbled protestations of love.
James – you played a blinder.
The next Robbie Williams? (*choking on pint*)More like the next Jason Orange.
nada says
DAMN IT!!!who’s the fuck do u think that u are to say these stupid things about the most adorable men in the whole world hah?first of all he is not ugly and BLUE is the greatest pop band in the whole world.and i don’t believe that lee has said these horrible things about his frinds it’s just rumours that unfans like to split about popular people.The person who wrote thece awful things about my love is a sick person and i swear if i could meet this person i would kick his ass either it’s a fat ass or a skeleton ass yeah i promise
tema says
i cant belive that lee ever say that blue are great they love each other
James says
Notice how Blue rhymes with poo.
Coincidence? I don’t think so.
Becky Livings says
I love lee ryan he is so cute. i am really missing blue they were my favouite band and always will be. i love you lee 4 ever and ever lots of love Becky
Liz says
you don’t even know him. You only know the side that the press portray of him, as do we all so I don’t think it’s fair for ANY of us EVEN THE FANS to comment on his personality. We don’t know him and we probably never will. Liz xx
aysenur says
my one love duncan!but ı love lee.kiss you ı loooooooooooooooooooovvvvvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
Maren C. says
Don`t talk shit about Lee, he`s the most beautiful man I think only someone ugly could say such stuff like you, but in reality you wish you was him!!
nihan says
I will eat you lee realy believe in me don’t come in turkey because I could eat you
nihan says
lee is my everything anybody can say to lee ugly maybe he is ugly but I think he have wonderful noise awww
annie james says
i dont believe in this whole story ,but any way we dont know what every one of them is going through so plz dont talk about them because they have been a nice band and they are all in our hearts . and iam a big fan of lee you could say that he is my world and if you read this lee i want you to know that you and the guys helped me a lot so thank you and wish you and them the very best
Natz says
Oh dear, we have ourselves a story! “Burlington” I value your opinion greatly, infact it doesnt bother me in the slightest what you think. Lee Ryan is normal. Ok maybe not quite, but he isn’t God, but he isnt exactly some lowlife who had done nothing with himself either. Fans who obsess and think they are goin to marry him and think he’s some sort of Godsend are a bit deluded im afraid. He spends his life (in the celebrity world) playing the part of “Lee Ryan” sex maniac, cocky twat. Really he is just a genuinely nice, normal guy. No he is not thick, he may not have the brains of an academic genius but he has the brains to know what to do with his life and how to act around other people, how to sing, act, write and infact I admire him. Natz x
Laura says
Oh my god how sad can some people get? Lee is NOT thick! He’s one of those artist that writes his OWN songs and sings LIVE 100% of the time which is very rare in the music business today. I think you all should stop judgeing people you haven’t even met. Pretty sad if you ask me. At least the guys made something out of his life. Money fame Girls and amazing music. If you ask me its sounds like your a tad bit jealous!!
James says
Jealous? Jealous of that fish faced turd for brains furniture shagger? I don’t think so.
sam says
you are mad lee ryan is a clever sexy fit lad that has made the right choice leaving blue and taking a solo career. 1. lee has a great voice and he lives to sing
2.blue would not survive in this new crap people call music.
3.and the blue lads obviously don’t want to get back together anyway because simon and lee have both got albums out and ant and dunc have one coming out soon
AND LEE RYAN IS NOT THICK
Haylee says
Lee would be so glad you have taken the time out of your sad lives to htink about him!
Asif Lee is gonna care what you think of him. He is talented..im sure his bank balence would tell you that! He is an inspiration your all just jelouse
Sarah says
You prefetic people. Why are you dissing Lee Ryan when you don’t even know him. What’s the point…Your a loser and you just need to get a life..The only loser is you guys, so stop dissing Lee Ryan, cause you don’t even know what he is and you may not even know him at all. Leave Lee alone ok, you dont even have a reason why your dissing Lee Ryan, if you have some mean things to say to Lee keep them to yourself cause some people don’t want to hear what you got to say and we don’t care. Shut your mouth and leave him alone ok….
Rob says
Yeah!
Jimi Hendrix, John Lennon, Jeff Buckley, David Bowie, Thom Yorke, Lee Ryan.
He’s up there with the greats!
Jemma says
James, like Lee would give a f*ck what u say anyway. He’d kick ur arse.
its tw*ts like u that make the world a horrible place.
u must talk so big to make up for smaller things.
get a f*ckin life you sket
Emilie says
(By the way this is only 4 ppl who av bin disin the wounderful Mr Lee Ryan) OMG! get a grip of ya selfs wil ya n I cnt quite blieve the amount of crap that is cumin out of ur mouths u av no rite 2 dis anybody luv emilie x x.
Jamie says
to Burlington: completely agree with what you said about Lee. However you seem to think Maroon 5 are some great band which people who like pop music wont know because theyre so incredibly rock..Maroon 5 are possibly one of the worst bands in the world.
Loki says
Seriously, some people have NO lives. Do we really need to bash someone we barely know? Let lee live his life and do what he pleases. You haters dont know him, you feed off of whats given to you by the scum known as the tabloids. Just let it go, its a dead horse.
Lets try and find a topic that will have some merrit and maybe change the world instead of adding more silly drama to it.
duygu says
it’s really sick to tell something like that.all people(who have an average IQ)would know that the truth is twisted.lee would say that he doesn’t want to come back again,but he would never say that blue makes him vomit.
and lee is talented(you would understand it if you’ve listened his songs without a prejudgement.).he is clever,and gorgeous.you’re just jealous.
we know that you hate lee,but it’s press,and there shouldn’t be words like that:’The dumbest sack of shit in pop, Lee Ryan…”etc.i’m not teaching you how to do your jobs,but it’s my comment,and i hope my comment to be understood.
p.s:burlington and james,you really bother me and the others.you’re really insulting lee ryan for no reason.just tell what you want to say in a normal way.
by the way,burlington,if you’re really adam levine,you should be the one who vomited because of his face.
Tiffy says
LEE RYAN IS THE BEST SINGER IN THE WORLD!!
I can’t believe it!!
And this is not TRUE!! The biggest lie ever!!
“I don’t miss working with them. You could say we got sick of each other, though not friendship-wise. We all had different things we wanted to do and were sick of what we were doing.”
Jo says
can i just say burlington that you must have a secret obsession with lee ryan to write such a hateful topic about him. people always say if you dog somebody repeatedly you actually fancy them!!! if you hate him why bother wasting your time writing stuff about him?? loser.
James says
I doubt that Burlington fancies Lee Ryan. I’m sure his motivation for writhing about him stems from Lee Ryan being a complete talent void gorm. More people should be made aware of this.
Caroline says
This thread is pathetic. I will admit I am a Fan of Lee Ryan but this Burlington and his mate wont go changing their minds about what they think of Lee just because a large amount of fans came and had a go at them.
In other words, get over it guys. Live and let live.
(and to be honest, i dont think lee would give a rats arse if he found out two people were slagging him off. Theres far bigger fish to fry)
madelaine says
so..i dunno why u peep are so jealous of lee..just cause he’s better then u..he’s smart..he’s good looking..he has loads of fans…and some ppl like u..no sorry..things like u come and diss him…u realy need 2 get a life..dont cha have bnetter things 2 do…like go and play wiv u’re dogs or smth..
Jo says
aw it seems that James also has a crush on the Ryanster. Get a f**king life will you and talk about something you actually like!!! you must depress yourself constantly calling people you dont even know. can you not just be nice??
selvea says
OMG!!!! ur soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo unbeilevable I love u more than any 1 can emagen but im sorry but ur sooooooo stubet gad damn why u dont want 2 come back again with blue u dont know how much we all love this band and i love it becoz of u and now u dont wanna come back why pleeeeeeeeeez baby ur solo is soooooooooooo beautiful but honestlEE its not as good as with blue so baby plz 4 ur fans think about it !!!!!! love u 2 death and ur faithfulEE 4 eva!!
Honey_Mona says
…I’m very shocked about your comments!!!
Lee is defenetly a really nice guy and I like him very much!
James says
It seems some people in this world are terrifying predictable. I think the number of measured respones to a justifed attack on this so called idol number less than the fingers on my hand. It really is a sad state of affairs you lot (not quite all of you remember).
Oh and it’s great how some of you can not spell or write. In some cases it must actually take effort to be that bad.
CLaw says
The media nd papers say so many things but no one can say the truth. It’s everytime funny what the pepz believe … U want the truth? Than ask Lee Ryan self.
Sry my english is not good but I hope U know what I mean …
Burlington says
Yes…isn’t it funny, James, how the people who don’t appreciate Lee Ryan’s ‘art’ are the few people who can string a few words together…
And Jamie, I don’t think Maroon 5 are the epitomy of rock; believe you me, you haven’t seen my CD collection. I was merely stating that this bunch of loons wouldn’t have EVEN heard of Maroon 5, they are so devoid of musical quality.
Guys, listen to your good friend Caroline – that girl’s talking some sense.
James says
Writing on this thread has been very amusing for me but I think now is the time to bow out, before it becomes even more repetitive. So all you lunatic and illiterate Lee Ryan fans can claim this thread to pat each other on the back and congratulate yourselves for such excellent and refined choice in “entertainment”. And as you sit rocking on your bed with tears trickling down yours faces as you clutch Blue CD’s to yours chests in a room who’s every surface is covered in posters, just think that there might be something outside of the tiny little world you have built yourself. I don’t mean that badly, I’m just trying to help.
xmegzx says
omg every1 on dis whole page dats sed lee ryans ugly, need ur eyes tested.. i actully love him!!!!! dus any1 no how i cn write to him, or send mail to him?! love ya lots leee xxx xxx xxx
Caroline says
This thread has been done to death. Get over it guys.
Robert Fitchet says
This has turned nasty indeed since i last looked and commented on the article.After a live performance 14/2/06 Shepherds Bush Empire London which i hope all that had constructive criticism attended?,have indeed now changed there minds.Like it or loath it this guy Lee Ryan is a very gifted talented star.The way he performs is unbelievable .He performed several songs from his self titled album without fault.He publicly admits he will only sing live and he certainly did to a gratefull audience who reacted with great pleasure and screams rounds of applause hands in the air and even in the audience i noted a guy aged around 40 singing along to every word of each song with his wife.My drive here is to point out that to my surprise he has a captive audience of fans ranging from 12 to 45 year olds both male and female even same sex couples attended any artist who can appeal to such a large age group has to be talented.The secret is in the songs and the lyrics and the way they are performed.I say from a proffesional basis that time will tell but see no point in this slanging match that a few have developed here.I have been around since the days of Blondie Cher Ike&Tina Turner like various music from Franz Ferdinand to Ozzy the lot.What i find about Lee Ryan is that the songs are performed to perfection and sung straight from the heart as if he is returning to periods in his life and pouring it into a song.The man deserves a chance in life just like me and you do.Some folk are stars some folk are from all types of backgrounds doing all sorts of jobs and all sorts of things and if Lee Ryan chose to sing so be it.If he has become a Lady,s Man or a Gay Icon (BIG DEAL) it goes with the territory of Fame.This man Lee Ryan has arrived back in the UK after promotion abroad which was also very succesfull may i add and the UK have yet to see Lee Ryan perform to his full potential.I have no doubt a full UK Tour will be on the Cards this year.To be honest i think everyone involved in this fracas of abuse should attend with an open mind and then come back here and comment on Lee Ryan purely from a proffesional singing point of view ,leave the looks name calling and fighting over who said what out of it.It would also be helpfull if people left there personal feelings of Love for Lee out of the topic to.I see him simply as a solo male artist on the way to the top.This topic has gone off the point and become a post for blasting people because they have a difference of opinion over a Male Artist,s new found Solo Fame.If you really do not like Lee Ryan or his work or what he represents why follow his career or life proffesionally or otherwise?.I have both male female artists that dont particularly appeal to me and i do not go into posts blasting them for there looks lifestyles or if they split from a Band or if my partner finds them attractive or they appear thick or come from a dyslexic classroom.Lets try to keep to the topic and lets keep it proffesional Lee Ryan has good relations with the remaining members of Blue .Simon Webbe walked on stage and offered nothing but support and admiration for a work companion and friend singing along with Lee Ryan and he was as surprised as the audience was that Simon arrived.All four members of Blue made it clear on the Farewell Tour as it was dubbed that they are not splitting up they are simply all trying different things and other projects.It was not the end of Blue.Who knows i am just an ordinary man but maybe right out of the Blue ,Blue will rise again.Time will tell folks.
Alicia says
firstly,lee speaks his mind and yeah he may get into trouble every now and then about it but that is just lee and also just because lee come out about everything that happened with blue was because he wasn’t happy in blue but he still remained friends with them all. i think people should give lee ryan a ago and try not to read everything you see in the papers.
Claudiente says
Jealous or what?
Like Lee would give a damn what u think! He would even laugh with it!
Yeah that’s what this is, a laugh!
U don’t know him at all, so y r u dissing him? It doesn’t make any sense anyways! It makes u more unloved!
U can better do some good things like getting a life! Maybe u can get one in the shop around the corner!
Lee Ryan rulez!
filipa says
lee is a wonderful gay
coolcatz says
Truth is:
Each of the Blue boys was awaiting a New Solo career before him.
And Lee Ryan-always treated as the youngest who does everything-was the bravest to start.
Meantime,the Record Company signing Blue-which Lee is no more with-had claimed a suspended re-union for the awaiting Fans,to sell its CDs and Merchandise,which was a great challenge for Lee on his New Solo way.
Even the Official Blue board closed just now to open ways for Duncan’s Solo career.
But Lee-with his kind soul-again passed bravely through all this.
He won New Fans who didn’t even hear about Blue.
Blue,that band that he gave it and gave it with devotion because that’s his good nature.
So when he expresses his Memories within Blue,we should respect him revealing his honest Feelings better than we hear some sneaky stuff hiding jeealousy.
Valentina says
hey, Lee! I’m from Bulgaria and I’m big fan of yours. I want and I hope that someday Blue will be back with another great album, but till then i wish you luck with your solo project. For now i love all of your songs. Maybe by favourite ones are Real love and When i think of you. I love them. I also love you and all the songs you’ve been done. Bye bye bye :) :))))))))))
filipa castro says
i always will be your fan!
i will never forget you
Em says
I dont know how you can be so nasty to someone you have never seen perform live, he is amazing.
Anyway if you don’t like the guys music than just don’t listen to it. Don’t waste your life on slagging people off, whats the point,
you just come across pathetic…
Tatiana says
Omg I love Lee Ryan hes soooo gorgeous!!!
about the first comment its not even worth talking bout!!
Lee is amazing and has an amazing voice and talent!! not like most crap thats out there!!
This article is stupid!!! no more comments!! BLUE are AMAZING!!
bella4lee says
OMG! I really can´t believe it!
How can anyone in the world say that Lee is ugly or anything like that!?
He´s the most beautiful person on earth!
I just guess people who talk bad about just don´t know what he is like and they have no idea of what they say!!
Love Lee wiv all my heart and soul!!
Heidi says
OKa you guys..
Dont you have anything toher to do than diss Lee ?
Honestly you’re just jealoux at him lol ..
Because he have everything and you dont.. LEARN IT !!
Lee is the most sweetest and funniest and perfect guy in the world.. He just is.
And that’s what people are jealoux at..
So stop dissing him alright !
3 fold utopian dream says
Ofcourse you are entitled to your opinion, but the way you’ve chosen to put it across is detramental to the point you are trying to make because it makes you look stupid.
I think Lee Ryan is actually amazing, some of his lyrics, such as the ones he wrote for “how’s a man suposed to change.” with blue, or “daydreamer” which was on his solo album are pretty amazing. His song “stand up as people” was also great and had a really important message behind it.
Lee’s a young guy and he’s made the typical mistakes any guy of his age would but if you think about it, he’s also done alot of good, if you delve into what he has actually done, you could see that he cares alot about the world around hima and actually tried to improve it, rather than standing aside and just talking about it. He’s also following his passion in life which in his case, happens to be a solo career in music. He is still succesful, thouh perhaps currently when relative to Blue’s peak not as succesful, but if anything that shows alot of courage, as he puts his dreams and happiness before the amount of money he earns. Doing his own thing as opposed to the thing that earns him the most money is nothing to be ashamed of.
Talent wise, i would say this man is brilliant. There are some notes he can reach that are insane and blow your mind. Elton John sure thinks he has talent and has testified as such, the same can be said for Stevie Wonder and my guess is you have no achievement you can broadcast to us that will justify your opinion on music as being more valid than oe of these great men.
As for looks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You don’t think he’s good looking, well bohoo, thats your humble opinion, emphasis on the humble as you seem to be under the impression that your word is law. In my humble opinion he is very attractive, but thats not an opinion i feel the need to rudely impose upon other people.
Oh and i am a big Maroon 5 fan and do know who Adam Levine is, hot guy but not a patch on Brandon Boyd of Incubus. So yes, people who like Lee Ryan can like Maroon 5 and various other bands within your taste bracket and outside it. Here’s a revolution, there is such a thing as varied musical taste, how very narrow minded of you to assume the contents of peoples entire CD collection based upon them liking one artist who you dont happen to like, you sad small little person.
On a final note, i would like to say that we could all breathe a little easier if you would kindly stop ramming your extremely rudely expressed, inane opinions down our throats.
I leave you with this quote
“Ride the waves , for one day there will be a wave so high that it will crash down to find a beach of gold.” – Lee Ryan
(I would say that was written by a guy who puts his points across in a way far superior to your own, and who has something more worthwhile to say than dehydrated camel iss puns, which i assume you see as the epitome of wit.)
peace and love xxx
King Jimbo says
“Ride the waves , for one day there will be a wave so high that it will crash down to find a beach of gold.” – Lee Ryan – if someone said that to me with a straight face I’d punch them in said face, therefore doing the world a service.
3 fold utopian dream says
Forgive me if I don’t give much attention to someone who thinks of”Punch them in the face”as the answer to anything they don’t agree with. How very mature.
P&L
xxx
King Jimbo says
You have much to learn “3 fold utopian dream”. The road is long, and hard, but if you get there you might just, just, understand.
mili says
burlington u are so so wrong about lee!!!.
3 fold utopian dream says
Ahh, and this I should take on the authority of you, the all knowing one. You’re deluded.
Adam Gade says
You know what, I think all these (mainly) girls are right. Lee Ryan is a very famous and beloved person. So much so that he falls into the range of Ray Quinn. Because only he has nearly as many insanely illiterate, whiny and spazzy fans.
lee num 1 fan says
why dont you all juist grow up robert fitchets is right good luck to lee
burlingtons freind says
burlington!!! you sound like you fancy lee ryan? i’ve seen your name on other lee ryan sights. why dont you just admit, you love him? dont be ashamed to be gay. it’s the first step to happiness!!! x x x
miley says
hi lee rayan i love all your songs.
Elisabeth says
I love Ryan..Wish he could come to China…