The Batman 3 casting rumours have so far been numerous and vague, but at least one thing’s for certain – Johnny Depp will definitely play The Riddler.
That’s a stone cold fact. You heard it here first. Why are we so sure that Johnny Depp will play The Riddler in Batman 3? Because Johnny Depp recently briefly mumbled something desperately ambiguous about it possibly being quite fun to maybe play The Riddler during a local radio interview with his band.
See? That’s means Johnny Depp is definitely going to be The Riddler in Batman 3, which is why we’ve already started to manufacture a set of Johnny Depp Batman 3 Riddler action figures. OK, admittedly we just got a load of unsold Pirates Of The Caribbean action figures and Tippexed question marks onto their backs but – face it – that’s probably what he’ll be like in the film anyway.
We know this is a bit premature, but we’re absolutely confident that Batman 3 is going to be the best film ever made. Seriously, ever.
Look at how Dark Knight ended, with Batman living in fear as a supposed criminal vigilante. Batman 3 is going to have the same feeling of doomy paranoia and creeping dread, but it’ll also have Cher titting around in a rubber doily too. There’s something for everyone there, provided that you’re a manic depressive comicbook fan or a stereotypical homosexual.
But what if you want more from The Dark Knight‘s sequel than a fed-up Batman and a terrifyingly expressionless pensionable Catwoman who keeps getting her old lady minge out? What if, for instance, you want to see The Riddler in Batman 3?
Well, frankly, if that’s the case you’re an idiot. The Riddler is rubbish. He’s basically The Joker but with a green hat and a thing for Sudoku. He’s Henry Kelly from Going For Gold with a bee in his bonnet. He’s rubbish. Don’t argue, we’re right. He’s rubbish.
But none of that fierce logic is washing with Christopher Nolan. It’s long been rumoured that he’d like to cast Johnny Depp as The Riddler in Batman 3. So far Johnny Depp has kept quiet over the reports, but during a local radio interview recently, he decided to share his thoughts on the matter:
Host: Hey Johnny, a listener called in earlier said you have to ask about the rumors on the internet of you doing the Riddler.
Depp: Oh yeah, I heard about that. Not that I know of.
Host: You’d be a good choice.
Depp: It seems like it’d be a fun gig for a while, yeah.
“It seems like it’d be a fun gig for a while, yeah.” If that’s not official confirmation of the casting, we don’t know what is. But you know what this means?
It’s obvious. Cher as Catwoman and Sweeney Todd‘s Johnny Depp as The Riddler? Batman 3 is going to be a musical!
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“Batman in Space.” You do understand sarcasm when you read it, right?
Yeah, of course, but your sarcasm wasn’t relevant or funny.
“To say that my claims are wild speculation is untrue. I’m the only one around here actually using facts:”
I’m sorry but you’re not using facts just your opinion nothing more.
FACT: Nolan has not committed to a 3rd film. Why? The tickets will sell themselves, and he’ll make a fortune!
Nolan is busy with his new film entitled Inception. The man can’t work on two films at once. Furthermore, he has already discussed story ideas with his brother Jonathan and David S.Goyer.
“FACT: TDK was ridiculously successful. More than ANYONE thought possible. It will be impossible for Nolan to make a film that is as critically well received as TDK. The expectations are just too high.”
The expectations are too high, because YOU can’t think of way it can be done. There is plenty of stories left to tell and Nolan knows this that is why he as not back out of the film as of yet.
Rachel Dawes is dead, and the one grieving scene that you speak of is not enough to illustrate Bruce Wayne’s feeling of loss. So the FACT is that if Nolan comes back and does finish the story he began, a new love interest will throw the trilogy off balance.
How would introducing a new love interest throw everything off balance? Bruce trying to move on from his dead wannabe lover I think is compelling story telling. In the comics Bruce has always tried to overcome his tragic pattern with women and seems to always fail. There is no reason the can’t pay homage to Bruce tragic luck with women in the next film. Furthermore, some of the best romantic stories have been about people trying to move on after a loss of a love one. It would be completely logical for Nolan to introduce another love interest.
“The Joker can not be in the third movie. The FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best, and most recognized nemesis. And with Heath Ledger’s death, all those possibilities. Batman has plenty of enemies, but in THIS story line, in the context of THIS trilogy, the fight with the Joker is THE defining moment.”
I highly doubt that Nolan would make the Joker the villain AGAIN in the next film; if Heath Ledger would have lived. I believe if Ledger would have lived that Nolan would have moved on to something new. Nolan wanted to create a new experience for the TDK and not duplicate the experience of BB. The third installment would most likely create a new experience for the audience.
As stated above, the FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best villain. That means that all the other villains that Nolan has now will not be as good. No one can dispute it. It’s simple logic. If Joker is the best, then the Riddler can’t be, and that means a movie with him in it CANNOT be as good. FACT.
Okay you’re once again making the Joker overrated. Once again Batman has a rogue’s gallery for a reason. It seems this argument has brought us right back where we started. The Joker is not Batman only villain; there are several other villains that Batman has strong psychological connection to Batman other than the Joker. You seem to have a Joker fixation that undermines Batman mythology. There is more to his mythology than the Clown Prince of Crime.
“Everyone on here seems to think that Nolan can just waltz in and make Batman 3 as good as, if not better than, TDK. But the FACT is that there is too much standing in the way, and THAT is why Nolan hasn’t signed on for the next film.”
Again you not Chris Nolan and have no idea want he is thinking. I think read a few articles about the possibilities of Nolan not returning and you became convinced that he wasn’t returning. Nothing is written in stone and there are more possibilities of him returning to the franchise then him turning it over to someone else.
I hope this is the last time that I have to say this, but you’re not psychic or a mind reader. Also by stating your opinions are fact doesn’t make them any less false. I believe to be more rational and more grounded with your claims.
Fair enough, I’ll only claim to be psychic if Nolan bows out of making Batman 3.
I don’t mean to ruffle anyone’s feathers. I enjoy debating things for that fact, regardless of subject matter. My wife hates this, and refuses to debate with me for it. So please excuse my little jabs. They’re meant to keep things feisty, and I always enjoy return fire. Its all in good fun.
Did you ever see “Thank you for smoking?” A great Aaron Eckhart film in which he brilliantly illustrates my debate style. It’s not about being right, its about making the other person say something that you can prove is wrong, because then, if he’s wrong, then whatever I say, however unlikely, sounds right. It’s a brilliant film, and if you haven’t seen it, you definitely should. Very poignant.
Personally, I would LOVE for Christopher Nolan to come back and do Batman 3, 4, 8… Even if he did “Batman in Space,” it would probably be better than Joel Schumacher’s movies.
It surprises me that he hasn’t jumped on this. I mean, think about it. You are in charge of the BATMAN FRANCHISE! What filmmaking job could be cooler than that? Who wouldn’t want to do that? I’ve heard he was doing “Inception,” and wouldn’t have any time to work on anything else, but the fact that he still hasn’t committed to #3, even if its just on paper, makes me suspicious. I read online that Michael Caine says #3 won’t be out until 2011 or more likely, 2012.
If Depp played The Riddler, that would be pretty freakin’ sweet. I don’t think he would need Depp, but Depp’s gotta huge following, which would then sell even more tickets. Batman fans, action movie fans, comic book movie fans, Bale fans, Nolan fans, and now Depp fans? He’ll probably top TDK easily with those kind of numbers. Of all the people I know, and I know plenty of people in the movie industry, I was the only one excited about Heath Ledger being the Joker. Everyone still remembered Nicholson’s version, which was pretty awesome. But I had faith, and Ledger did not disappoint. Some people say that 90% of directing is casting, and Nolan knows how to do that. I’ll bet Nolan and Co. could come up with one hell of a death trap, regardless of who played the Riddler. But it is up Depp’s alley, and he even said it would be “fun.” If I were a betting man, I’d say Depp was a pretty safe wager.
Despite all I’ve said about Catwoman, there is a part of me that would love to see what Nolan can do with it. Most people who mention it on this site say Angelina Jolie. I don’t think he’d do that in a million years. Sure, she brings on a whole different group of fans, but I think she also brings a lot of baggage. I just imagine a younger Catwoman. What I would do, is introduce elite socialite Selena Kyle in number 3, but not Catwoman. She could be the first woman we see with Bruce Wayne that isn’t just a supermodel that he’s using to sell the playboy disguise. That way, you could introduce a POTENTIAL love interest in #3, without rushing Bruce Wayne into the sack with someone so quickly after Rachel. And then in #4, its game on.
With regards to villains, there is also one other thing that we haven’t seen. There are probably a lot of bad guys that can actually stand up to Batman in a fight. The Joker never could, neither could the Riddler or the Penguin. The only ones I can think of are guys like Bane, and a bunch of supernatural ones like Killer Croc and Clay Face. Ra’s al Ghul did well in BB, but Batman was eating League of Shadows goons for breakfast 4 at a time in BB. Even in the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher movies, his toughest fight was always with a handful of minions. Is Bane the only guy on the list?
I also read somewhere that Bale’s contract called for a “crossover” Batman movie. I don’t put too much stock in Hollywood contracts these days, but Marvel is spinning Iron Man towards the Avengers, and it would make sense for DC to try and follow suit. There’s a new superman movie on the books for 2011, which can’t possibly be any worse than Superman Returns. It seems like pieces could be falling into place.
Ok… so am i the only one who thinks that Ledger as The Joker was overrated? I mean, don’t get me wrong… he did a great job as an insane villein with a messed up face but, that was not the joker! I can’t help but feel that he is getting all of this praise because he has passed (and it is a loss that we all should morn). The bottom line here is that The Joker was and is the Clown Prince of crime. Ledger as the Joker left out a whole side of The Joker that will be missed by all true Joker fans. With that said… Depp as The Riddler? I think he would make a much better Clock King…
Yes, you are the only who thinks Ledger’s performance was overrated.
Which “whole side” was not present in Ledger’s Joker?
Johnny Depp is an actor with incredible versatility. He could probably play any of Batman’s villains, and do it with style.
That said, the Clock King is a stupid villain. I’m beginning to think that most of the Rogue’s Gallery came from guys dealing with writer’s block.
Okay, I take it back. There are two of you who think Ledger’s performance was overrated.
i’m not a big comic book junky but i do watch a lot of the movies!
and from what i have found in watching a ton of movies that were once books or comics is that they are always going to change something. and thats just how it is! if you didn’t like the movie thats fine. its your opinion. but TDK was one of the best movies made, you can tell by how well it did in theaters. people will “praise” Ledger because he did die and a lot of people(not everyone) thought he did an amazing job.. and i am one of those people. in my opinion no one else could have done better than what he did.
-this is only my opinion! i’m not trying to start anything but discussion!
Yes you are, Ledger completely turned the character of the joker on its head and transformed it from the giggling pile of s**t that has been portrayed in recent comics and cartoons, into something dark, sinister and obviously crazy but still holding onto the “clown prince of crime” side.
Ledgers joker is possibly the best screen adaptation of the joker and resembles the joker from certain milestone comics such as “death in the family” and of course “the killingjoke”.
I have to agree though im not sure about Depp as the riddler.
Bane or Hush are needed in this next film!!!!!!
“Yes, you are the only who thinks Ledger’s performance was overrated.”
No, you’re not the only that thinks Ledger’s performance as the Joker was overrated. Ledger did a great job as the Joker, but there was more going on in the film then him. However, it is not Heath Ledger fault that the Joker is overrated. The Joker has always been one of the most overrated villains in the comics. His been in so many movies, and has had so many comics about him that the comic book industry seem to neglect the rest of Batman’s mythology. The Joker is a great villain, but I think it is time to give him rest and focuses on other attributes of Batman’s mythology.
Jim, I’ve got to know. Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
Bob Kane wasn’t L. Ron Hubbard or anything.
“Okay, I take it back. There are two of you who think Ledger’s performance was overrated.”
Actually there are other people that complain that Ledger as the Joker is overrated. It doesn’t mean that he wasn’t great just that people place too much focuse on his performance. I think that you have to forgive us for being actual Batman fans and not Joker fans.
“Jim, I’ve got to know. Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
Batman’s mythology is his other villains and his other stories. The fact that Batman has been to compared to famous literary characters such as Halmet, Oedipus or Sherlock Homles. Batman hasn’t been around for seventy years be overusing the same villain over and over.
“Bob Kane wasn’t L. Ron Hubbard or anything.”
Wasn’t Bob Kane involved with the same golden age era as L. Ron Hubbard.
Sheesh, you guys take my numbers way too literally. I’m sure there are more than two people who think that Heath Ledger’s performance wasn’t as good as its being touted, but what more proof do you want? You saw the movie. For his performance, he was given the single highest award this planet has to honor an actor’s performance.
On top of that, the entire country groaned in unison when they first found out that Ledger was going to be the Joker. He was never given a fair shake. Instead of starting at 0 and scoring 100 on this test, he started well below 0 in public opinion. He made believers out of everyone.
I think you guys are asking too much.
“Batman’s mythology is his other villains and his other stories.”
Do you know what the word mythology means? The study of myth. Batman is FICTION. Not myth. Not folklore. Bob Kane was just a guy who wrote detective stories.
I’m not usually one to debate semantics, you just keep using that word over and again. If you want to call it “mythology,” that’s just fine with me, but you’re using the word wrong.
Moving on, you’re saying that the Joker is overused. Why do you think that is? Burton’s first film had the Joker in it, and now Nolan has immortalized him. I think its because as I’ve been saying all along, that the Joker is Batman’s best, highest profile villain, and if you want to sell a Batman story to the masses, and not just “Batman fans,” you need to use the Joker.
I had a lot of time think about this and I would like to say that I didn’t mean that Heath Ledger wasn’t as good or that he didn’t deserve the Oscar or anything like that. Heath Ledger wasn’t just amazing as the Joker but as a well rounded actor. I am sorry that he is gone, and I wish he could do more as actor and director. I still believe that the TDK Joker is overrated. I could be wrong but I believe that alot of people saw the TDK for all the wrong reasons. As soon as Ledger passed the media were saying how playing the Joker may have contributed to his death. I think that a lot people believed that and went to saw the movie as some of morbid spectacle. I don’t believe to this day that Ledger playing the Joker had anything to do with his death and rather people believe it or don’t should let him rest in peace.
Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
I’m a little confused about that question. Are you asking what Batman’s mythology is or are you asking why its called Batman mythology. If it is the second question then you should already know the answer. Batman has been adopted by several writers and artist through out the decade and as a result became bigger then the man that created it. So Batman is not restricted by one person and that is why it’s Batman’s mythology. I think it was Joss Whedon that once said that when something becomes bigger than you that is when it becomes art.
“Sheesh, you guys take my numbers way too literally. I’m sure there are more than two people who think that Heath Ledger’s performance wasn’t as good as its being touted, but what more proof do you want? You saw the movie. For his performance, he was given the single highest award this planet has to honor an actor’s performance. “
Okay, we know that we both know that you didn’t mean that statement literally. I was just pointing out that there was more than some people that believe that the Joker in the TDK was overrated. Furthermore, we are not saying he was Ledger was bad; Ledger was great it just that people give too much focus to the Joker and neglect the rest of TDK story.
“Do you know what the word mythology means? The study of myth. Batman is FICTION. Not myth. Not folklore. Bob Kane was just a guy who wrote detective stories.”
Don’t you realize that myth is FICTION. Any fictional body of work that has a large scope and an expanded universe can have a mythology. The word mythology also means allegorical narrative and not just the study of myth.
“Moving on, you’re saying that the Joker is overused. Why do you think that is? Burton’s first film had the Joker in it, and now Nolan has immortalized him. I think it’s because as I’ve been saying all along, that the Joker is Batman’s best, highest profile villain, and if you want to sell a Batman story to the masses, and not just “Batman fans,” you need to use the Joker.”
This further proves that you’re not a Batman fan; you’re a Joker fan. Burton first film didn’t make as near as much money has TDK even though both films had the Joker. I believe why TDK outperformed the other Batman films is because Ledger’s passing. Furthermore, don’t you think that the fans and general audience alike would eventual become sick of the Joker. I believe that the Joker fans need to move on and focus on something other than the Joker.
Joker: Heath Ledger
Riddler: Elijah Wood
Penguin: Philip Seymour Hoffman
Catwoman: Angelina Jolie
Two – Face: Aaron Eckhart
Freeze: Hugo Weaving
Poison Ivy: Scarlett Johanssen
Harley Quinn: Michelle Williams
Bane: the Rock
i’m sorry but i really dont think you can replace two-face…. thats just dumb….
and second the rock is not a good chose for a villian!!
Bane as the rock would be awesome
Can you get anymore stereotypical in your choices? Please lets just hand it over to mostly hack actorss. Mr Hoffman is the only actors actor in that group. Ill give you that one.
Guys,
Just a casual by standard in this conversation.
Just to keep this in perspective. Batman Begins and TDK were fantastic films, surrounded by tragedy and greatness. They were successful and will undoubtedly be classics for decades to come. But simply, let the argument go. In reality these movies don’t matter. I would love to see Gotham (or whatever the third installment will be called) come to theaters, but if it doesn’t we don’t lose anything.
And to just put my two cents in:
Batman’s feeling of loss over rachel is shown in multiple scenes, sometimes implied, sometimes verbally explained. Example: Batman is watching the remains of the demolished building, batman explains his loss to alfred, batman comments on his loss to dent when dent has gordon’s kid hostage.
I think these instances provide the necessary feelings of loss and remorse in the allowed time frame without detracting from the overarching theme and story line.
On another note:
In regards to ledger’s performance, was in and of itself perfect for this film. I feel that so far Nolan’s work on the past two movies, BB and TDK, were in no ways comparable to any other Batman films. Ledger showed a depth of character seen only in some of the greatest actors of our time. Was it the best portrayal of all time, no. But I firmly state that no other actor could have portrayed THIS JOKER any better.
Best of luck to all.
BTW, Jim my compliments on the sarcasm you employ in your articles.
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Wow, you guys talk waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
seriously, its leaving a “COMMENT” not an ESSAY!
Ha Ha. So true. But I usually write a lot too its just that its a comment.
if this were a book it would be 8,000 padges dude
While I am not saying that Heath was not a bad at
playing the Joker, still my favorite Joker will
be Jack Nickelson. As far as the Riddler goes I
perfer Jim Carrey, yet I do think that Johnny
Depp will do an ok role in protraying the Riddler.
Now for the catwoman I would pick the lovely Miss.
Brad Pitt. However, you can’t forget the penguin
I would cast Jack Black if he would agree to do it
The Batman’s partener would be tricky, providing
they would ever considering using Robin. Thats my
two cents. I don’t claim to be a casting director,
just because I believed that Michael Keaton was the
best Batman not so much he played him, yet the way
he protrayed Bruce Wayne. Well see you at the movies!
I think that having the riddler come in after the joker is too much of a downgrade it would be like if it went venom then dr oct in spiderman
i think that jim fuckin carry should play ridderl and not gay johhy depp he not the batman type he should stick to action movies like john diger or nigger ok JIM CARY FUCKS U ALL!!!!! lolz lolz lolz lolz lolz and stfu and gtfo lolz soi soi soi
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wow dude, you’re like, the biggest fuckin idiot I’ve ever seen ramble on any website ever. I hope you know all your theories and thoughts and quips and judgements are not only wrong, but STUPID. PEACE, FUCKER
guess what pinhead. David Tennant is playing riddler. kristen bell is playing harley quinn. marion catillard is playing catwoman. and anne hathaway is playing batgirl. now dont ever write a bunch of paragrphs of what you think might happen, it aint gonna happen! and finally, get a frickin life.
by the way, jim carrys cool and all but he looked stupid in the riddler costume and i hope he never does that again. so “master chief” four lines up, your stupid. and i hate you. and that pretty much rapps things up
This shit cannot be true austin..where the hell did u hear this garbage from
I think that the title should have to do with the Dawn. How when Harvey Dent says “it’s darkest right before the dawn” because the second was “The Dark Knight” it could be a play on words. The third should have something to do with the Dawn
Ledger’s performance as the Joker was not over rated. Hell, he won an Academy Award for it. Who would have ever thought that someone could have won an Academy Award playing the Joker in a Batman movie. All of the rumors about Batman 3 are just that because there will probably be no Batman 3. Ledger set the bar too high in TDK and the writers know that they can’t top it. They (Nolan and crew) want to go out on top and are walking away.
Goyer will probably be by himself with Batman 3, if he doesn’t walk away too, and it will suck just like his Blade 3. The Batman 3 died when Ledger died.
The only way to make Batman 3 worth seeing – is to not have Johnny Depp in it. I like him and all – but he never strikes me as an evil guy – and this film needs it’s really evil guy – more evil than the joker (if possible)
I would like to see Daniel Day Louis play the Riddler. If he plays him crazier than Bill the Butcher -that would take the cake. From Gans of New York – he’s got the nonchalant yet crazy way to kill people with a smile on your face down. I would be scared to see him play a Batman villian if he pulls it off. In other words -they need someone that can pull off close to an oscar worthy performance – or just a really plain creepy one that people talk about for a long time to even come close the TDK
Killer Croc – a big wrestler with croc scale tattoos??
http://www.bedoper.com/reptilian/graphics_graveyard/lizard_man.jpg
hey Depp. So whats the news, are ya goin’ to play the riddler? and are they gettin someone ells to play da joker
As long as he doesn’t put nipples on the Batsuit, I will be fine…PEACE.
You cunts are all fukn losers, get some sun.
“you said it your self she is realistic in the comic books not in the movies do you think she was realistic in batman returns so other characters are realistic then twoface because he doesnt have any powers just because they dont have powers doesnt make it more or less realistic”
I’m sorry but that doesn’t make any sense at all. Catwoman is realistic in the comics much like Batman. To denounce her as unrealistic you’ll have to denounce Batman unrealistic as well. If Nolan can make a man with half his face burned off and seeking revenge seem plausible then there is no reason why Nolan wouldn’t consider bringing in Catwoman.
Deep would be a good Riddler. But it dawned on me this past weekend when talking about movies who would be perfect for the role. He’s a very good actor. He’s played good and bad guys in movies. Experienced. He’d be unexpected choice but my pick would be, Ewan McGregor. I can see him playing a menacing, very dark version of the riddler. This article says the riddler is the joker with a outfit change. Not So. Not in my vision he isn’t. Think of the Riddler as the original puzzle master. Like “buzzsaw” character only smarter and with a true intention of not only learning batman’s identity, but then killing him. People might say, they ‘copied’ of of Saw. False. Those deathtraps that were in the saw movies… Well the original deathtrap was designed by the riddler to kill batman. Look it up! So they copied the deathtrap idea off of the riddler if anything. But here are my top choices for the Riddler.
1) Ewan McGregor
2) Jude Law
3) Johnny Deep
4) Me
5) Michael Rosenbaum (darkhorse pick)
I just meant the “saw” guy lol. not buzzsaw
I will totally agree on Ewan McGregor as a potential Riddler.
this article is stupid
Mr. Heritage you are one of the least credible journalists I’ve ever know of for writing this article. If you knew anything about comics you would know that the Riddler IS NOTHING LIKE THE JOKER!
Jim Carrey’s portail of The Riddler was the most deplorable thing to happen to comics in the past two decades (Yes even worse than Ghost Rider and the fantastic 4)!!!!
The Riddler is a genus mastermind who wouldn’t have a seconds hesitation to blow up an orphanage but make you figure out a puzzle to stop him.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU SLANDER THE RIDDLER!!!
Sincerely,
And extremely angry Joker loving comic guy
Oooh, I LOVE it when Stuart baits the fanguys . . . when they bite, the satisfaction is delicious!
Johnny Depp would be sooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than Heath Ledger!!! He is a weirdo! And Johnny is awesome!!! I hope he plays that part. I hate batman and I would go see it if he played in it.
I disagree sooooooooooooooooooooo much lol. Heath Ledger was the best Joker. Jim Carrey was the best Riddler. Danny Devito did an okay job of the Penguin Man but there are better people out there. Heath Ledger was a weirdo but that is what makes him so great! The Joker is also a weirdo duh. What do you like worship Johnny Depp or something? I think most people would disagree with you!
First off I am a big fan of batman. Begins really laid the foundation for a great run and tdk was the best sequel any fan couldve hoped for. As far as a part 3 though, I can understand why Nolan wouldn’t return. I truly hope he does but tdk raised the bar to a level we haven’t experienced in thus genre. Nolan says that he wanted to make everything as real an beleivable as possible. With that said he really only has a few options as to who will be the villain. The riddler would be nice but like someone mentioned I dont think depp would be the best choice. Catwoman would be interesting because she has almost always been some sort of love interest for batman and with Rachel gone the movie will need that. My idea for part three would be the hunting of batman and ras al ghul returninng. They left it open for him to be alive in bb so him returning is possible. Even though he isn’t as popular as joker or as appealing, he IS batmans greatest adversary in the sense that he can go toe to toe with him. Also his daughter Talia was the most popular love interest of batman/ Bruce Wayne and they even have a son together in some storylines. Regardless, if Nolan and co. Return to do a part 3 I am sure it will be a great film. As long as they keep robin out, and have bale, oldman, Caine, and Freeman reprise their roles i’ll be content and I’m sure u guys will too
You know who I think would make an AWESOME riddler…..How about Jim Carey? I bet he’d play the shit out of that role…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………
If they cast Cher as catwomen they are making a grave mistake, Making a women like cher wouldn’t atract as many viewers. Yeah cher was hot in the olden days, but she is probably like what 55 now? no one wants any 55 year old women playing catwomen who is supposed to be some sexy and intriguing women, Cher is no sexy and intriguing women anymore.
cher is in her 63
lol messed that up it ment to say. Cher is 63
Batman 3 should be different from what everyone thinks; Pick up days after the end of TDK, Batman needs to be hunted and arrested. Criminals are declining as villians are rising. Ra’s al ghul needs to come back for like a final showdown or something, the joker should just have small scenes, where maybe all you hear is his voice, and not see him. I think bringing the riddler in would just be another take on a joker type character, bring in a villan that hasn’t been done before, or perhaps bring in two or more villains to “team up” against batman or something.
I think that Chris Nolan realizes that there’s pretty much no way in hell to top TDK. Not unless he gets someone who can blow Ledger’s performance out of the water. Now I’m saying it is possible to be as good as Ledger. To be better, I don’t know though. But anything is possible… If he got someone to portray him, do some nice editing, they could probably make him the spitting image of Ledger’s Joker.
Because I think that the only way to top TDK, is to have Nolan do more Batman films, not a trilogy. You can’t just give up, it’s almost his kid, you don’t abandon it. Once he started something, he should see it thru. Because the Joker in TDK opened possibilities for anything in the batman world.
I think Johnny Depp or anybody else could NEVER replace the awesome performance by Jim Carrey in Batman Forever man. I mean that Jim Carrey is funny and looks a lot like the Riddler in the comics. Im surprised that they didn’t hire Jim Carrey again. Maybe because he is older? Tsk. Tsk. I think they just want to change it up to somebody completely different then him. The two people that could do the second best jobs are Johnny Depp or Vince Vieluf. If either of them are not hired this movie takes a dip in the poo man!
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all i know is that i for sure do NOT want cher playing catwoman. i mean come on! she probably wont even live long enough to see the completed movie. shes so god damn old
i hope its not a musical it will spoil the fun of batman and like romero’s zombie said cher is way 2 old 2 play catwomen!!!
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johnny depp as the riddler
i really hope they done mess the 3rd batman. recast the joker? fuck that. heath did a badass job. ill say the only one that quiet possible tob him is johnny depp. but as him play the riddler. depp is a coll actor and really gets into his roles. and as for catwoman. no fucking way cher will be her. id prefer catwoman to be like jessica biel or vera farmiga. and for anjelina jolie as poisen ive bcuz ppl will like to kiss her lipz.
If they get someone else to play the Joker and tey to act as a spitting image of Ledger playing the joker the film will flop. It will be a joke. Ledger won an Academy Award Johnny playing the Joker in TDK, which was the second highest grossing film ever made.
BTW, Johnny Depp has never won an Academy Award from any of the dozens of movies that he has been in.
Christopher Lloyd in Batman 3??
I read as Hugo Strange. He makes an amazing villain and starting a new Villain instead of reworking recently used ones like The Riddler is a decent idea. But having a big name like Carry or Depp might sell more tickets.
catowmen is next villian..
they hint at this in dark knight when mrogan freeman is showing off the new batsuit to bruce wayne. says it should hold up pretty good against cats…. hint hint…
that dont mean riddler wont be in it too..
it has to try and be bigger then dark knigh and to do so,ya gonna need two villians. they wont top DARK KNIGHT and know this,but will make a decent flick,like batman begins was at least.
good enough..
could just be catwomen,and riddler for batman 4
be cool at the end of batman 3 they show joker breaking out of arkham…lol
you could use an actor that looks like ledger and can mimic the joker as he played it,or super impose his face with computers.
the young actor from the tv series 3rd rock from the sun??
perfect for taking over as joker. he looks like ledgers younger brother. same type of face and he can act too.
im sure he would be perfect for the new joker.
i doubt they will use joker tho,out of respect for ledger.
such a shame too.. CATWOMEN is for sure.
she will slice and dice.. poke eyes and slit throats.
and be one crazy bitch who escapes from arkham i bet.
or is involved with a mob boss,who wants to take over and kills her mob boss hubby too.. could be brutal.
I hope to god that Johnny Depp will not be allowed anywhere near Batman or any real role. He cannot act to save his life – he does himself, which is to act like a drunken twit and to rape the role he’s put in. NOT acting.
The Riddler is by far the most intriguing villain he likes to mess with the psychologic and mental capacity of Batman not just being stupid and crazy like The Joker.
But the riddler will only be good if he is based on the serious “The Batman” not any other series for this is the best ridder and all the others look the same , this one has a unique dark feel to it and should be recognized as the dark riddler.
I’d rather like to see Ras Al Ghul return as the mastermind behind all of these events. It would be cool if Rachel is actually alive and reveals herself to be his daughter, Talia. It would be neat if Bruce’s life and career as Batman were completely orchestrated by the Demon.
I like The Riddler, I think he is one of the best Batman villains out there, The Joker is nothing like him. The Joker has dementia and really doesn’t know what he’s doing but that’s what makes him so deadly, The Joker is unpredictable and violent, He killed Robin and paralyzed Batgirl and had a smile while doing so. But The Riddler is a villain who plans everything out to be precise, he toys with Batman for fun, if you can solve the riddle then you deserve to catch the Riddler. I like Riddler better because he is not over done, where the Joker is very over done, I love the Joker but he is over done.
Well, the third movie should have batman on the run, as the “villain” and the true villain should appear to be the hero. At least for te first part of the film….a job perfect for the riddler.
I would prefer to see cat woman left out entirely. (too many villains ruin a good film (Spiderman 3??) As they too need room to develop and grow as characters.
Riddler though should be played more dark, cynical, and egomaniac and should NOT be “funny” or wearing a green suit with question marks on it. For a good voice study, play Batman Arkham Asylum, and listen to how the riddler speaks to batman. You don’t see him, but his voice acting shows that superior condescending attitude without all the cartoony riddler camp-i-ness that would just turn this into ruined super hero movie.
OH! Leave out Robin…. stupid. Just build on batman as the dark night. Develop him further.. show him tormented . .and driven by Rachael’s death. Show him persecuted as a villain. Have the joker come in as the White night . . and turn on the populace late in the movie…the turn would need to be done in a way to vindicate batman as the true hero….
Just my two cents on ho not to ruin this film and turn it into batman and robin, or batman forever….or spiderman 3
sorry meant the riddler come in as the white night not the joker.
Hey guys just an idea Johnny Depp to play joker and David Tennant as the Riddler. it makes sense i remember seeing Tennant in Harry Potter and he was really good at being a nutter but also in doctor who he is really good at talking in riddles. what you think?
That would be pretty awesome, but I think the joker is done with. The actor is dead so let’s leave it at that. There will never be another joker. His story had already happened let another villian have a chance.
they shouuld try to do a movie based on the new batman game!
i mean joker wouldnt have to be one of the main characters, harley quinn could be the new villain!
once the joker has been placed in arkham asylum, dr. harlyeen quinzel will look after him and fall in love with him as we all know. but soon she becomes harley quin and could lead a break out from arkham asylum. she would be the villian we see the most and we would still see the joker but only in short moments when batman would see him on television screens around arkham asylum!
feel free to comment and critise
this is actually a really good idea
the only downfall is that you would still have to cast a joker
this is a pretty solid idea, if Nolan’s coming back he can do it
the breakout is a major event from batman’s story
I’m all up for this, but if there’s a robin in any of the batman’s to come I’m blastin my t.v. and the movie theater screen
Dwight Shultz should play The Riddler he’s the perfect age to suit the current batman flicks and he’s tailor made for that character you remember Howling Mad Murdock right ATEAM
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