Batman 3: Johnny Depp Definitely The Riddler, But Probably Not
The Batman 3 casting rumours have so far been numerous and vague, but at least one thing’s for certain - Johnny Depp will definitely play The Riddler.
That’s a stone cold fact. You heard it here first. Why are we so sure that Johnny Depp will play The Riddler in Batman 3? Because Johnny Depp recently briefly mumbled something desperately ambiguous about it possibly being quite fun to maybe play The Riddler during a local radio interview with his band.
See? That’s means Johnny Depp is definitely going to be The Riddler in Batman 3, which is why we’ve already started to manufacture a set of Johnny Depp Batman 3 Riddler action figures. OK, admittedly we just got a load of unsold Pirates Of The Caribbean action figures and Tippexed question marks onto their backs but - face it - that’s probably what he’ll be like in the film anyway.
We know this is a bit premature, but we’re absolutely confident that Batman 3 is going to be the best film ever made. Seriously, ever.
Look at how Dark Knight ended, with Batman living in fear as a supposed criminal vigilante. Batman 3 is going to have the same feeling of doomy paranoia and creeping dread, but it’ll also have Cher titting around in a rubber doily too. There’s something for everyone there, provided that you’re a manic depressive comicbook fan or a stereotypical homosexual.
But what if you want more from The Dark Knight’s sequel than a fed-up Batman and a terrifyingly expressionless pensionable Catwoman who keeps getting her old lady minge out? What if, for instance, you want to see The Riddler in Batman 3?
Well, frankly, if that’s the case you’re an idiot. The Riddler is rubbish. He’s basically The Joker but with a green hat and a thing for Sudoku. He’s Henry Kelly from Going For Gold with a bee in his bonnet. He’s rubbish. Don’t argue, we’re right. He’s rubbish.
But none of that fierce logic is washing with Christopher Nolan. It’s long been rumoured that he’d like to cast Johnny Depp as The Riddler in Batman 3. So far Johnny Depp has kept quiet over the reports, but during a local radio interview recently, he decided to share his thoughts on the matter:
Host: Hey Johnny, a listener called in earlier said you have to ask about the rumors on the internet of you doing the Riddler.
Depp: Oh yeah, I heard about that. Not that I know of.
Host: You’d be a good choice.
Depp: It seems like it’d be a fun gig for a while, yeah.
“It seems like it’d be a fun gig for a while, yeah.” If that’s not official confirmation of the casting, we don’t know what is. But you know what this means?
It’s obvious. Cher as Catwoman and Sweeney Todd’s Johnny Depp as The Riddler? Batman 3 is going to be a musical!
That’s excellent news, and we’d like to take this opportunity to offer Christopher Nolan our specially-composed pieces I’m Just A Lonely Millionaire With A Creepy Bat Fixation, Butla Rapp and Don’t Kiss Me Catwoman (You Have A Moustache Like My Gran). Don’t be stealing our ideas, Nolan.
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“I’ve got you on the ropes, Jim! I’m hearing a lot of “this COULD happen,” and “that COULD happen.” “It MIGHT be this,” or “it MIGHT be that.” Hopes and dreams don’t pay the rent, man. Nolan MIGHT come back for a third. He MIGHT also make it about Batman in Space! There are a billion mathematical possibilities. So saying that something MIGHT or COULD happen isn’t going to win a debate.”
Okay, for some reason you believe that you’re psychic that can tell the future. You’re not psychic and your comments have no proof what so ever. Your only proof is that TDK made lots of money without considering why the film actually made so much money in the first place. You have to remember that this was Ledger last complete film and so of a course people are going to see Heath’s last performance. Begins didn’t near as much profit had TDK and that has a lot to do with Ledger last performance. Also, I gave possibilities on how Nolan can continue the story, but your defense is that it can never happen. You’re not Christopher Nolan so you have no idea want he will or won’t do. This is all opinion nothing more.
“He MIGHT also make it about Batman in Space!”
Okay, my possibilities were actually realistic.
1.The Sequel.
“Nolan WAS able to heighten the stakes after BB, but I’ve said from the beginning that BB was destined to have a sequel. In TDK, Ra’s al Ghul is not even mentioned, and the Scarecrow is proven to be a joke whom Batman can easily defeat. Harvey Dent locks up most of the gangsters in the city. Batman defeats the Joker and Two Face, AND he and Gordon manage to save Dent’s reputation, which, according to the Mayor, is what will keep all those gangsters in jail.”
Like I said before Nolan Batman films are not like Stars Wars or Lord of the Rings’ because BB was a complete story and it was great that it got a sequel, but it was not destined for a sequel. Nolan didn’t even want discuss sequel during the production of the film. When the film he had to be convince that a sequel was worth coming back to since this was Nolan’s first sequel.
What exactly, has Nolan done in BB or TDK to make you think that he is somehow “inspired” by 1940’s Catwoman?
In the TDK Nolan used the Joker first appearance in the comics as an inspiration for the film. As he assassinated important people in Gotham one by one and disguised himself as police officer,
“Batman wears a costume. The Joker wore a costume, as did Two Face, and the Scarecrow. IF Nolan brought in Catwoman, she’s going to have a costume because no one but you cares about 1940’s Catwoman. THESE MOVIES ARE NOT JUST FOR COMIC BOOK FANS, but regular people. If regular people see “1940’s” Catwoman, all of them will ask, “Who the hell is that? That’s not Catwoman! CATWOMAN WEARS A COSTUME!”
Okay, Two-face did not wear a costume. In the comics Two-Face wears black and white suite showing his good or bad half. He also wore other costumes to illustrate his good and bad half. Two-Face doesn’t doesn’t wear any costume like that; he just wears a normal suite that is little burned in the explosion. The Scarecrow in the comics wears a costume that strongly resembles an actual Scarecrow. In the films he just wears a simple burlap sack. Nolan was even considering that the Scarecrow to not wear a costume at all.
“And Nolan is NOT going to bring her in JUST BECAUSE she’s a “femme fatale.” He has bigger things to worry about than a film noir checklist. You are reaching, Jim. I smell desperation.”
Saying that Nolan would consider Catwoman, because she a femme fatale is not desperation, but a logical conclusion. Nolan said that Batman has noir sensibilities so it is logical that he want emphasizes those sensibilities.
3. Rachel Dawes.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?! You don’t think that Bruce was “tormented” by the situation with Rachel? You are forgetting that in TDK, she tells Bruce that she meant it when she said that she would be with him if Gotham no longer needed Batman. Only AFTER THAT, she sends him a note (the one Alfred never delivers) to tell him that she changed her mind!
Okay, I never said Bruce wasn’t tormented by his situation with Rachel or by her death. He was hurt by the fact he couldn’t be with her, but that doesn’t change the fact the fact that they did not have a romantic relationship. The never had a chance to have a relationship. It was a relationship that never came to be and that is the tragedy. The note Rachel sends Bruce that Alfred never gave says a lot then just that she changed her mind. She tells him that she has fallen in love with Harvey and that she believed that Bruce will never give up being Batman. Bruce lost her tragically, but that doesn’t mean he can never move on. There are a lot of people that in real life that lose people tragically and are able to move on. There is no reason why Batman can’t at least try to move one. You say that I don’t think Bruce was tormented by Rachel being with Harvey and her death? I even made reference to a scene in which Bruce was devastated by her death. I think the only that is showing desperation is you, since you beginning to put words in my mouth.
4. Heath Ledger
“We will never know. What we DO know is that Nolan does not have the Joker anymore. One less thing that he has, and one more reason why he’ll leave the series.”
Dead or alive, Heath Ledger DESERVED that Oscar. The Academy has too much integrity to give an acting award to someone who didn’t deserve it for their acting achievements. Shame on you for even saying so.
I never said or even implied that Heath Ledger didn’t deserve the Oscar. Heath did incredible job of course he deserved the Oscar. It is the true that most of the nominations were technical achievements for the expectation Ledger performance as the Joker. My point is that the Oscar was his win and not the actual film. You either didn’t understand want I meant or you trying to put words in my mouth in order to win the argument. If that is the case then shame on you.
5. The Villains.
“Okay, this is the final word I’m going to say on the “Rogue’s Gallery.” You are probably a much bigger Batman comic book fan than I am. I’ve read plenty of comics in my life, and loved Batman: The Animated Series…”
“…but I have NEVER HEARD of the Black Mask. And if I haven’t heard of him, then your typical movie goer has DEFINITELY never heard of him, and WILL NOT CARE about him! Just like we don’t care about 1940’s Catwoman, Hush, Bane, or any other obscure “fans only” favorite.
Just because you wouldn’t care doesn’t mean that movie going audience wouldn’t care. You can’t speak for millions of people only yourself. I think only the movie going audience are only interested in seeing an intriguing villain and nothing more. They probably wouldn’t care if the villain was iconic or not. I’m not saying that the next villain should or shouldn’t be iconic. I’m just saying that either way fans shouldn’t limit the possibilities that Nolan can take this film. There is no reason why there can be a villain who is iconic and villain that is not so iconic in one movie. Nolan admitted that Two-Face was not as iconic as the Joker yet he still brought him in the film. There is no reason why he can’t do it again. Furthermore, I believe Nolan should use Catwoman first appearance has an inspiration, but I also said that he shouldn’t be the only inspiration. Nolan would probably use her appearances in the Long Halloween, Dark Victory, and Catwoman’s comics like the Big Score has an inspiration.
I’ve gotcha. For the same reasons I started with…
2. Half a billion dollars? An Oscar? Nolan CANNOT top TDK!
3. The love interest is dead!
4. He can’t bring back the Joker!
5. His next best option, The Riddler, won’t make a better movie!
All this says just one thing, man. Nolan is out!
Again your not psychic your reasoning is unconvincing. Just because you can’t think of way it can’t be done you believe that Christopher Nolan can’t come up with ideas that you never will. You are not psychic and you are not Christopher Nolan just a skeptic that ignoring what the Batman films really are.
“Batman in Space.” You do understand sarcasm when you read it, right?
To say that my claims are wild speculation is untrue. I’m the only one around here actually using facts:
FACT: Nolan has not committed to a 3rd film. Why? The tickets will sell themselves, and he’ll make a fortune!
FACT: TDK was ridiculously successful. More than ANYONE thought possible. It will be impossible for Nolan to make a film that is as critically well received as TDK. The expectations are just too high.
Whether they were in a relationship or not, whether she was going to run a way with him or not, Rachel Dawes is dead, and the one grieving scene that you speak of is not enough to illustrate Bruce Wayne’s feeling of loss. So the FACT is that if Nolan comes back and does finish the story he began, a new love interest will throw the trilogy off balance.
The Joker can not be in the third movie. The FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best, and most recognized nemesis. And with Heath Ledger’s death, all those possibilities. Batman has plenty of enemies, but in THIS story line, in the context of THIS trilogy, the fight with the Joker is THE defining moment.
As stated above, the FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best villain. That means that all the other villains that Nolan has now will not be as good. No one can dispute it. It’s simple logic. If Joker is the best, then the Riddler can’t be, and that means a movie with him in it CANNOT be as good. FACT.
Everyone on here seems to think that Nolan can just waltz in and make Batman 3 as good as, if not better than, TDK. But the FACT is that there is too much standing in the way, and THAT is why Nolan hasn’t signed on for the next film.
So if I’m wrong, and my facts aren’t factual, then why hasn’t Nolan signed on to do number 3?
just to let the stupid people of “heckler spray” know, the riddler is not like the joker, completely two different characters of the batman franchise. the joker wears make-up, his clothing is a collection of colors, purple, green, white, the riddler wears completely green clothing, no make-up. the joker is more demented and disturbing in his character. the riddler is alot more of a goofy and giddy type of character. but i guess with your simple minded opinions would say the same exact thing between poison ivy and catwoman. again, two very different characters, catwoman of course is wearing all black, a mask, tie wire wrapped around her fingers, for her nails. poison ivy wearing green and some purple, having red hair and using a poison vapor to seduce her victims. the only thing in which these two female villions have in common, are in their own way seducing their victims. thats it!!!! no, your the idiots and your wrong. and then trying to compare and relate the possible third batman to sweeny todd, to which they might make batman 3 a musical, goddamn you people are dumb. and im just gonna leave it that.
Wow, man. Thanks for the info. You must really be some kind of Batman expert!
How ARE the accommodations in your mother’s basement? Sweet Dragonball Z poster over your bed, by the way.
“Batman in Space.” You do understand sarcasm when you read it, right?
Yeah, of course, but your sarcasm wasn’t relevant or funny.
“To say that my claims are wild speculation is untrue. I’m the only one around here actually using facts:”
I’m sorry but you’re not using facts just your opinion nothing more.
FACT: Nolan has not committed to a 3rd film. Why? The tickets will sell themselves, and he’ll make a fortune!
Nolan is busy with his new film entitled Inception. The man can’t work on two films at once. Furthermore, he has already discussed story ideas with his brother Jonathan and David S.Goyer.
“FACT: TDK was ridiculously successful. More than ANYONE thought possible. It will be impossible for Nolan to make a film that is as critically well received as TDK. The expectations are just too high.”
The expectations are too high, because YOU can’t think of way it can be done. There is plenty of stories left to tell and Nolan knows this that is why he as not back out of the film as of yet.
Rachel Dawes is dead, and the one grieving scene that you speak of is not enough to illustrate Bruce Wayne’s feeling of loss. So the FACT is that if Nolan comes back and does finish the story he began, a new love interest will throw the trilogy off balance.
How would introducing a new love interest throw everything off balance? Bruce trying to move on from his dead wannabe lover I think is compelling story telling. In the comics Bruce has always tried to overcome his tragic pattern with women and seems to always fail. There is no reason the can’t pay homage to Bruce tragic luck with women in the next film. Furthermore, some of the best romantic stories have been about people trying to move on after a loss of a love one. It would be completely logical for Nolan to introduce another love interest.
“The Joker can not be in the third movie. The FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best, and most recognized nemesis. And with Heath Ledger’s death, all those possibilities. Batman has plenty of enemies, but in THIS story line, in the context of THIS trilogy, the fight with the Joker is THE defining moment.”
I highly doubt that Nolan would make the Joker the villain AGAIN in the next film; if Heath Ledger would have lived. I believe if Ledger would have lived that Nolan would have moved on to something new. Nolan wanted to create a new experience for the TDK and not duplicate the experience of BB. The third installment would most likely create a new experience for the audience.
As stated above, the FACT is that the Joker is Batman’s best villain. That means that all the other villains that Nolan has now will not be as good. No one can dispute it. It’s simple logic. If Joker is the best, then the Riddler can’t be, and that means a movie with him in it CANNOT be as good. FACT.
Okay you’re once again making the Joker overrated. Once again Batman has a rogue’s gallery for a reason. It seems this argument has brought us right back where we started. The Joker is not Batman only villain; there are several other villains that Batman has strong psychological connection to Batman other than the Joker. You seem to have a Joker fixation that undermines Batman mythology. There is more to his mythology than the Clown Prince of Crime.
“Everyone on here seems to think that Nolan can just waltz in and make Batman 3 as good as, if not better than, TDK. But the FACT is that there is too much standing in the way, and THAT is why Nolan hasn’t signed on for the next film.”
Again you not Chris Nolan and have no idea want he is thinking. I think read a few articles about the possibilities of Nolan not returning and you became convinced that he wasn’t returning. Nothing is written in stone and there are more possibilities of him returning to the franchise then him turning it over to someone else.
I hope this is the last time that I have to say this, but you’re not psychic or a mind reader. Also by stating your opinions are fact doesn’t make them any less false. I believe to be more rational and more grounded with your claims.
Fair enough, I’ll only claim to be psychic if Nolan bows out of making Batman 3.
I don’t mean to ruffle anyone’s feathers. I enjoy debating things for that fact, regardless of subject matter. My wife hates this, and refuses to debate with me for it. So please excuse my little jabs. They’re meant to keep things feisty, and I always enjoy return fire. Its all in good fun.
Did you ever see “Thank you for smoking?” A great Aaron Eckhart film in which he brilliantly illustrates my debate style. It’s not about being right, its about making the other person say something that you can prove is wrong, because then, if he’s wrong, then whatever I say, however unlikely, sounds right. It’s a brilliant film, and if you haven’t seen it, you definitely should. Very poignant.
Personally, I would LOVE for Christopher Nolan to come back and do Batman 3, 4, 8… Even if he did “Batman in Space,” it would probably be better than Joel Schumacher’s movies.
It surprises me that he hasn’t jumped on this. I mean, think about it. You are in charge of the BATMAN FRANCHISE! What filmmaking job could be cooler than that? Who wouldn’t want to do that? I’ve heard he was doing “Inception,” and wouldn’t have any time to work on anything else, but the fact that he still hasn’t committed to #3, even if its just on paper, makes me suspicious. I read online that Michael Caine says #3 won’t be out until 2011 or more likely, 2012.
If Depp played The Riddler, that would be pretty freakin’ sweet. I don’t think he would need Depp, but Depp’s gotta huge following, which would then sell even more tickets. Batman fans, action movie fans, comic book movie fans, Bale fans, Nolan fans, and now Depp fans? He’ll probably top TDK easily with those kind of numbers. Of all the people I know, and I know plenty of people in the movie industry, I was the only one excited about Heath Ledger being the Joker. Everyone still remembered Nicholson’s version, which was pretty awesome. But I had faith, and Ledger did not disappoint. Some people say that 90% of directing is casting, and Nolan knows how to do that. I’ll bet Nolan and Co. could come up with one hell of a death trap, regardless of who played the Riddler. But it is up Depp’s alley, and he even said it would be “fun.” If I were a betting man, I’d say Depp was a pretty safe wager.
Despite all I’ve said about Catwoman, there is a part of me that would love to see what Nolan can do with it. Most people who mention it on this site say Angelina Jolie. I don’t think he’d do that in a million years. Sure, she brings on a whole different group of fans, but I think she also brings a lot of baggage. I just imagine a younger Catwoman. What I would do, is introduce elite socialite Selena Kyle in number 3, but not Catwoman. She could be the first woman we see with Bruce Wayne that isn’t just a supermodel that he’s using to sell the playboy disguise. That way, you could introduce a POTENTIAL love interest in #3, without rushing Bruce Wayne into the sack with someone so quickly after Rachel. And then in #4, its game on.
With regards to villains, there is also one other thing that we haven’t seen. There are probably a lot of bad guys that can actually stand up to Batman in a fight. The Joker never could, neither could the Riddler or the Penguin. The only ones I can think of are guys like Bane, and a bunch of supernatural ones like Killer Croc and Clay Face. Ra’s al Ghul did well in BB, but Batman was eating League of Shadows goons for breakfast 4 at a time in BB. Even in the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher movies, his toughest fight was always with a handful of minions. Is Bane the only guy on the list?
I also read somewhere that Bale’s contract called for a “crossover” Batman movie. I don’t put too much stock in Hollywood contracts these days, but Marvel is spinning Iron Man towards the Avengers, and it would make sense for DC to try and follow suit. There’s a new superman movie on the books for 2011, which can’t possibly be any worse than Superman Returns. It seems like pieces could be falling into place.
Ok… so am i the only one who thinks that Ledger as The Joker was overrated? I mean, don’t get me wrong… he did a great job as an insane villein with a messed up face but, that was not the joker! I can’t help but feel that he is getting all of this praise because he has passed (and it is a loss that we all should morn). The bottom line here is that The Joker was and is the Clown Prince of crime. Ledger as the Joker left out a whole side of The Joker that will be missed by all true Joker fans. With that said… Depp as The Riddler? I think he would make a much better Clock King…
Yes, you are the only who thinks Ledger’s performance was overrated.
Which “whole side” was not present in Ledger’s Joker?
Johnny Depp is an actor with incredible versatility. He could probably play any of Batman’s villains, and do it with style.
That said, the Clock King is a stupid villain. I’m beginning to think that most of the Rogue’s Gallery came from guys dealing with writer’s block.
Okay, I take it back. There are two of you who think Ledger’s performance was overrated.
i’m not a big comic book junky but i do watch a lot of the movies!
and from what i have found in watching a ton of movies that were once books or comics is that they are always going to change something. and thats just how it is! if you didn’t like the movie thats fine. its your opinion. but TDK was one of the best movies made, you can tell by how well it did in theaters. people will “praise” Ledger because he did die and a lot of people(not everyone) thought he did an amazing job.. and i am one of those people. in my opinion no one else could have done better than what he did.
-this is only my opinion! i’m not trying to start anything but discussion!
“Yes, you are the only who thinks Ledger’s performance was overrated.”
No, you’re not the only that thinks Ledger’s performance as the Joker was overrated. Ledger did a great job as the Joker, but there was more going on in the film then him. However, it is not Heath Ledger fault that the Joker is overrated. The Joker has always been one of the most overrated villains in the comics. His been in so many movies, and has had so many comics about him that the comic book industry seem to neglect the rest of Batman’s mythology. The Joker is a great villain, but I think it is time to give him rest and focuses on other attributes of Batman’s mythology.
Jim, I’ve got to know. Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
Bob Kane wasn’t L. Ron Hubbard or anything.
“Okay, I take it back. There are two of you who think Ledger’s performance was overrated.”
Actually there are other people that complain that Ledger as the Joker is overrated. It doesn’t mean that he wasn’t great just that people place too much focuse on his performance. I think that you have to forgive us for being actual Batman fans and not Joker fans.
“Jim, I’ve got to know. Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
Batman’s mythology is his other villains and his other stories. The fact that Batman has been to compared to famous literary characters such as Halmet, Oedipus or Sherlock Homles. Batman hasn’t been around for seventy years be overusing the same villain over and over.
“Bob Kane wasn’t L. Ron Hubbard or anything.”
Wasn’t Bob Kane involved with the same golden age era as L. Ron Hubbard.
Sheesh, you guys take my numbers way too literally. I’m sure there are more than two people who think that Heath Ledger’s performance wasn’t as good as its being touted, but what more proof do you want? You saw the movie. For his performance, he was given the single highest award this planet has to honor an actor’s performance.
On top of that, the entire country groaned in unison when they first found out that Ledger was going to be the Joker. He was never given a fair shake. Instead of starting at 0 and scoring 100 on this test, he started well below 0 in public opinion. He made believers out of everyone.
I think you guys are asking too much.
“Batman’s mythology is his other villains and his other stories.”
Do you know what the word mythology means? The study of myth. Batman is FICTION. Not myth. Not folklore. Bob Kane was just a guy who wrote detective stories.
I’m not usually one to debate semantics, you just keep using that word over and again. If you want to call it “mythology,” that’s just fine with me, but you’re using the word wrong.
Moving on, you’re saying that the Joker is overused. Why do you think that is? Burton’s first film had the Joker in it, and now Nolan has immortalized him. I think its because as I’ve been saying all along, that the Joker is Batman’s best, highest profile villain, and if you want to sell a Batman story to the masses, and not just “Batman fans,” you need to use the Joker.
Why do you keep calling it Batman’s “mythology?”
I’m a little confused about that question. Are you asking what Batman’s mythology is or are you asking why its called Batman mythology. If it is the second question then you should already know the answer. Batman has been adopted by several writers and artist through out the decade and as a result became bigger then the man that created it. So Batman is not restricted by one person and that is why it’s Batman’s mythology. I think it was Joss Whedon that once said that when something becomes bigger than you that is when it becomes art.
“Sheesh, you guys take my numbers way too literally. I’m sure there are more than two people who think that Heath Ledger’s performance wasn’t as good as its being touted, but what more proof do you want? You saw the movie. For his performance, he was given the single highest award this planet has to honor an actor’s performance. “
Okay, we know that we both know that you didn’t mean that statement literally. I was just pointing out that there was more than some people that believe that the Joker in the TDK was overrated. Furthermore, we are not saying he was Ledger was bad; Ledger was great it just that people give too much focus to the Joker and neglect the rest of TDK story.
“Do you know what the word mythology means? The study of myth. Batman is FICTION. Not myth. Not folklore. Bob Kane was just a guy who wrote detective stories.”
Don’t you realize that myth is FICTION. Any fictional body of work that has a large scope and an expanded universe can have a mythology. The word mythology also means allegorical narrative and not just the study of myth.
“Moving on, you’re saying that the Joker is overused. Why do you think that is? Burton’s first film had the Joker in it, and now Nolan has immortalized him. I think it’s because as I’ve been saying all along, that the Joker is Batman’s best, highest profile villain, and if you want to sell a Batman story to the masses, and not just “Batman fans,” you need to use the Joker.”
This further proves that you’re not a Batman fan; you’re a Joker fan. Burton first film didn’t make as near as much money has TDK even though both films had the Joker. I believe why TDK outperformed the other Batman films is because Ledger’s passing. Furthermore, don’t you think that the fans and general audience alike would eventual become sick of the Joker. I believe that the Joker fans need to move on and focus on something other than the Joker.
Joker: Heath Ledger
Riddler: Elijah Wood
Penguin: Philip Seymour Hoffman
Catwoman: Angelina Jolie
Two - Face: Aaron Eckhart
Freeze: Hugo Weaving
Poison Ivy: Scarlett Johanssen
Harley Quinn: Michelle Williams
Bane: the Rock
i’m sorry but i really dont think you can replace two-face…. thats just dumb….
and second the rock is not a good chose for a villian!!
Guys,
Just a casual by standard in this conversation.
Just to keep this in perspective. Batman Begins and TDK were fantastic films, surrounded by tragedy and greatness. They were successful and will undoubtedly be classics for decades to come. But simply, let the argument go. In reality these movies don’t matter. I would love to see Gotham (or whatever the third installment will be called) come to theaters, but if it doesn’t we don’t lose anything.
And to just put my two cents in:
Batman’s feeling of loss over rachel is shown in multiple scenes, sometimes implied, sometimes verbally explained. Example: Batman is watching the remains of the demolished building, batman explains his loss to alfred, batman comments on his loss to dent when dent has gordon’s kid hostage.
I think these instances provide the necessary feelings of loss and remorse in the allowed time frame without detracting from the overarching theme and story line.
On another note:
In regards to ledger’s performance, was in and of itself perfect for this film. I feel that so far Nolan’s work on the past two movies, BB and TDK, were in no ways comparable to any other Batman films. Ledger showed a depth of character seen only in some of the greatest actors of our time. Was it the best portrayal of all time, no. But I firmly state that no other actor could have portrayed THIS JOKER any better.
Best of luck to all.
BTW, Jim my compliments on the sarcasm you employ in your articles.
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Wow, you guys talk waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
seriously, its leaving a “COMMENT” not an ESSAY!
While I am not saying that Heath was not a bad at
playing the Joker, still my favorite Joker will
be Jack Nickelson. As far as the Riddler goes I
perfer Jim Carrey, yet I do think that Johnny
Depp will do an ok role in protraying the Riddler.
Now for the catwoman I would pick the lovely Miss.
Brad Pitt. However, you can’t forget the penguin
I would cast Jack Black if he would agree to do it
The Batman’s partener would be tricky, providing
they would ever considering using Robin. Thats my
two cents. I don’t claim to be a casting director,
just because I believed that Michael Keaton was the
best Batman not so much he played him, yet the way
he protrayed Bruce Wayne. Well see you at the movies!
i think that jim fuckin carry should play ridderl and not gay johhy depp he not the batman type he should stick to action movies like john diger or nigger ok JIM CARY FUCKS U ALL!!!!! lolz lolz lolz lolz lolz and stfu and gtfo lolz soi soi soi
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Barrack Obama
im going to inslave the white crakers of the USA go black opression screw the man!!!!
wow dude, you’re like, the biggest fuckin idiot I’ve ever seen ramble on any website ever. I hope you know all your theories and thoughts and quips and judgements are not only wrong, but STUPID. PEACE, FUCKER
guess what pinhead. David Tennant is playing riddler. kristen bell is playing harley quinn. marion catillard is playing catwoman. and anne hathaway is playing batgirl. now dont ever write a bunch of paragrphs of what you think might happen, it aint gonna happen! and finally, get a frickin life.
by the way, jim carrys cool and all but he looked stupid in the riddler costume and i hope he never does that again. so “master chief” four lines up, your stupid. and i hate you. and that pretty much rapps things up