Batman 3: Catwoman & The Penguin To Remain Unemployed

by Stuart Heritage on July 15, 2008 111 Comments

The Dark Knight has whipped up such a hype frenzy that we wouldn’t be surprised if it cured the blind and healed the terminally ill.

In fact, people are going so potty over The Dark Knight that they’ve started to pretend that they’ve already seen it just so they can move onto speculation over Batman 3. So we may as well do the same. It’s not like we’ve got anything better to do.

Batman screenwriters David Goyer and Jonah Nolan have responded to claims that the baddies in Batman 3 will be Catwoman and The Penguin by saying that the baddies in Batman 3 definitely won’t be Catwoman and The Penguin. They’ve got a whole raft of other villains to chose from, so why pick the two most obvious? Especially when nobody’s put Lola Lasagne in a Batman movie yet.

Believe what you read and you’ll hear that The Dark Knight is as good as The Godfather II, that The Dark Knight is so profound that your life will be changed forever by two and a half hours of watching a man in a silly rubber costume riding a bike, and that Heath Ledger‘s performance as The Joker is so perfect that all Oscars past present and future should be posthumously given to Heath, melted down and made into a single giant Oscar that does the dance from 10 Things I Hate About You every hour on the hour.

Is The Dark Knight that good? Buggered if we know, but we’ve been suckered in by the hype as much as anyone else. So, to try and combat our feelings of market-manipulated vulnerability, let’s try and take control by starting up a bunch of hype about Batman 3.

Christian Bale is already keen to make another Batman movie and, so long as Christopher Nolan decides that he wants to, it’s pretty much a done deal already. Which begs the question – which of Batman’s villains will feature in Batman 3?

Obviously the two main choices are The Penguin and Catwoman. They’re just as iconic as The Joker and they’ve as yet been ignored by the Nolan Batman series. However, we have our reservations.

For example, The Penguin is usually seen as a comedy character, and Christopher Nolan would rather cut his balls off than have a moment of light relief in one of his Batman films. And as for Catwoman… given what Nolan has done to The Joker, we’re not sure that we’re ready to have our life-long Catwoman fetish ruined by a scar-covered mess with matted hair and a freaky make-up job.

Luckily, Batman writers David Goyer and Jonah Nolan agree with us, although their reasoning has slightly less to do with the preservation of a slightly unnatural sexual fantasy than ours. Totalfilm reports:

“In the first movie we use Ra’s Al Ghul and The Scarecrow, who had not been in the movies before, and had not been in the sixties TV show before. And there are dozens if not hundreds of other characters that fit that bill. Everyone says its gotta be The Penguin or Catwoman… well I completely disagree.”

Of course, there are hundreds of various Batman villains that could be used in Batman 3, so we’ll just have to sit and wait to see which ones get used.

Needless to say, we’ll never be happy until Schwarzenegger reprises his role as Mr Freeze, because if there’s one thing that Christopher Nolan is shit at, it’s the ice-based pun.

What would you rather have – a critically-acclaimed immersive crime drama or a great big European guy painted blue shouting things like “You’re not sending me to the cooler!”? Mr Freeze wins every time. It’s not even a contest.

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JohnH October 17, 2009 at 6:29 pm

Generally likeyour ideas, except for Harley Quinn & Robin. Having Harley Quinn without the Joker would be the biggest gimik u could possibly have after Heath’s death. Harley Quinn is no more than the Joker’s sidekik(she’d be way worse than catwoman)(though definatly not if Cher is catwoman). Also, your fogetting Jason Todd was by far the most unpopular Robin out of all(5-6?) of them, so much so that they killed him off because of that. He doesn’t become Red Hood or try to be Batman till WAY LATER then the 1st years of Batman(which ar what the mvies r about)+ u can’t just completley ignore Dick Grayson aka.1ST Robin aka.Nightwing aka.now Batman?what’s so bad about that? (though of course he needs to be shown in a very different way to the Schumacher films). Everyone thinks of Robin(/DG)from the tv show+ the old batman movies, but people forget before Nolan&Bale, we thought the exact same thing of Batman, so I think there is a way to do him well(though as i’ve previously said, nolan doesn’t like Robin anyway, so he won’t be in). Definatly like your ideas on Riddler+Hugo Strange though, maybe those 2 would be enough(though th last 2 mvoies have been 2h1/2, maybe include scarecrow again somewhere)(though NOT Ventriloquist/Scarface=in Nolan’s realistic/serious universe…really?)

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obie October 18, 2009 at 11:40 pm

I could see charlize theron being a catwoman because she has talent beauty.She would probaly have a onscreen connection with cristean bale

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vanesa July 7, 2010 at 11:53 am

wow its sexy cute cat woman and man i think but ew yack he and her ugly ass hole i think dick is better :)

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Louis S. Carrozzi July 16, 2010 at 5:13 am

LAME!

Here’s what Nolan SAID he WON’T do because he doesn’t like the character:

Cat Woman.

Are you KIDDING ME?!? Cat Woman (Done Christopher Nolan style, of course) would be the absolute BEST character to have in BM3. I can’t believe that a director and writer as brilliant as Nolan would rule out Cat Woman as a major character. She would be PERFECT for BM3 and here’s why:

Remember the scene in Dark Knight where Bruce Wayne is stitching himself up after getting bit by a dog and he’s talking to Alfred? I can’t remember if the line is “Bat Man has no weaknesses” or “Bat Man” has no limits” but either way this is a perfect setup for what should happen in BM3. Obviously, when it comes to money Bruce has no limits, he physically has no limits (he kicks the crap out of everyone) and he mentally has no limits (he is ninja trained after all), so what is Batman’s weakness?

LOVE.

(They even mention CATS in that very scene!!! Go back and watch it again!!!)

LOVE. Love is Batman’s ultimate weakness! He would give anything to have his family back, but he can’t, and he’d have given anything to save Rachael, but he failed and now she’s dead. He sacrifices “Batman” as an icon of justice in order to protect the integrity of Harvey Dent in the public’s eye at the end of the Dark Knight because having people retain “hope” is more important in the long run than Bat Man. He’s lost EVERYTHING that was important to him.

So we get to episode 3. Batman is on the run, he is vilified, and he is hated. He is all alone, he has lost everyone who is important to him – save maybe Alfred. The psychological and physical challenge for Batman is to somehow clear Batman’s good name, but at the same time his past is driving him mad because what he would really like to do is retire Bat Man and just try and have some kind of a normal life. But, doing so is a next to impossible task with criminals like [insert your favorite bad guy here].

Now, along comes Cat Woman. She may be on the wrong side of the law, but she is much like him in many ways, and he can’t help but be attracted to her. She is beautiful, powerful, sexy, smart as hell, and there really isn’t a ton of difference between them except that crime forced him to become an agent of justice, but crime forced her to take care of herself.

That’s his downfall, or at least the challenge he needs to overcome in order for him to defeat whatever “bad guys” are in BM3 and restore his name.

The ONLY weakness Bat Man really has is fear of being alone and without a family. It’s what made him become Batman in the first place, and if he had a temptation to fall in love and find a way OUT of that fate, even if it’s with the wrong woman, I’d say that would be the hardest demon for him to fight.

Cat Woman would be Bat Man’s “last temptation”, and I couldn’t think of a better way to REALLY put Bat Man in peril than to fall in love with a dangerous woman.

We’ll see what Nolan does, but if the “Cat” reference in Dark Knight was an “accident” and he doesn’t pick up on that in BM3, then he has totally missed the boat – in my opinion.

Somehow I think Nolan’s got a plan up his sleeve, but, we’ll just have to wait and see…

Come on! I don’t want a really good Bat Man 3, I want an AWESOME Bat Man 3.

Cat Woman is the way to do it. Totally.

Peace. Louis.

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lee brandin detroy September 5, 2010 at 6:11 pm

i think that david tennant will make a great riddler villan with crispin glover joker ,and with halle berry catwoman, and with aaron eckhart as two-face /anarchy, with reba mcentire as mercy graves , with the arkham inmates in 2011′s batman 3 dark victory
that will be great, and with chris o donnel as robin, and with christian bale as batman,

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topk September 25, 2010 at 4:56 pm

They want to end the triology that’s why Cat and penguin couldn’t join the party. Because it will be ended. Sadly Nolan couldn’t use joker anymore. Probably the ninjas will return in Batman 3

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Joe Neri October 8, 2010 at 4:05 am

Wayne Knight (Newman from Seinfeld)

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Julia Palmcook November 21, 2010 at 6:20 am

I have an idea to do a graphic novel about Penguin girl- a chic for the Penguin from Batman. I write and illustrate both…if you want to help me pursue this please contact me at bjpalmco@yahoo.com or 715-675-2061, thanks-Julia

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Laura December 6, 2010 at 10:55 pm

Now Harley Quinn is an EXCELLENT choice…Here’s a Harley Quinn I’d like to see:
http://hardpop.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/batman_3_poster___harley_quinn_by_joshwmc.jpg

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